Update on this:

1. I deleted the 22GB Qt folder and leo still runs.
2. I found that the menus don't work when opening the program or clicking 
on pretty much anything, but if I close the macbook and open it again, they 
start to work.

Two issues:
1. The menus don't work - bug.
2. Installing is pretty much broken for anyone but Python programmers. 
   a. In recent years anytime I've had to install on Windows and tried the 
setup.exe install, it fails. Had to use the Quick Install of 5.3 from 
Sourceforge.
   b. Installing on Mac by following instructions on install page is not 
realistic for most users. For example, "pip install leo" doesn't work. (pip 
command doesn't work without setup, and then after installing pip more 
error messages).

Joe

On Saturday, October 26, 2019 at 3:04:33 PM UTC-4, Joe Orr wrote:
>
> I've been unable to spend time on Leo much this year. Hoping to get back 
> into it soon.
>
> Just got a new Mac and was unable to install Leo after 2 hours of trying.
>
> This isn't surprising, I always have trouble installing it. On Windows I 
> just use the 5.3 Quick Install, was never able to get it to work from 
> source.
>
> I am able to run Leo, it opens the default file. However, the menus don't 
> work. Any ideas what the issue is?
>
> I think the number one issue facing getting more users to use Leo is how 
> hard it is to install. I think it is only really installable for python 
> developers who already have all the dependencies. 
>
> I installed Anaconda first, no luck. I didn't keep a log of all of the 
> twists and turns of trying to install it. At one point I installed with pip 
> and got errors, something about wrong version of Qt (my version is more 
> recent).
>
> I installed Qt separately, not clear if that is necessary. The Qt folder 
> takes 22 GB. I'd like to delete that.
>
> Version 6.0. 
>
> Someone who knows the code needs to do a fresh install and find out what 
> exactly is needed for an install and update the installation page. The 
> Quick Install for Windows approach is best, in that case there isn't any 
> "install SIP from sources" steps, you just download a folder and run. Leo 
> is never going to see widespread adoption with this kind of installation 
> procedure. 
>
> -Joe Orr
>

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