On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 3:54 PM Félix <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> This conversation is very valuable because I want to make the experience
> of installing and using LeoInteg easy and straightforward for all long-time
> (or not) users of Leo, irrespective of their familiarity with vscode. So
> thanks for putting out your very own thoughts as you experience the process
> of trying out this extension still in development!
>

My pleasure.

 Because of my professional deformation for using vscode/sublime daily for
> the last 7 years or so, I'm having a hard time presenting the installation
> and usage methods to people unfamiliar with vscode in a clear and concise
> way.
>
> That is to be expected I guess :)
>

Yes. There is even a term for it: "the curse of knowledge".

Although most of this will be irrelevant once I deem the project advanced
> enough to be compiled and distributed as an actual vscode extension
> (installed and ran seamlessly via the extension/market panel) It's still
> very much important because I also have to fine-tune what I show in the
> leoInteg panels, and in the readme, etc.
>

I'm glad you think so. It will help us all understand what you are trying
to do, and how.

Which brings me to what I think is the subtlety that make the whole process
> of 'testing a vscode extension still in development' a bit confusing:
> you're not running nor debugging my extension : you're running the whole of
> vscode's source itself (the second vscode window that opens when you press
> F5) with leoInteg in it, as if it was installed as a real extension.
>

An important clarification.

>
> I hope that last paragraph made sense... English is a second language to
> me, so my sentence structures may be flaky at times. It's referred in the
> official doc as "compiling and running the extension in a new Extension
> Development Host window"
> https://code.visualstudio.com/api/get-started/your-first-extension
>

It was perfectly clear.

To help in clarifying all of this, I'm currently working on
> https://github.com/boltex/leointeg/issues/44 , so this is changing the
> appearance of the interface and, hopefully, going to help a lot in the
> startup, and automation of the server startup and the connection to it, so
> I'll make video captures right after I'm done with this. Hopefully before
> the week end. (I'm open to doing zoom sessions: as soon as I finish those
> changes on the interface)
>

I'll look forward to it.

>
> But in the meantime, I'll address the numbered points you raised :
>
> *Point 1:* yes, I meant the folder itself as such via the right-click
> context menu (once vscode is installed with defaults behavior on windows)
> see this screenshot:
>

One thing grammarly keeps reminding me of are unclear antecedents like
"this" and "it".

*Point 2: *addressed above, when pressing F5, you're running/debugging
the *whole
> of vscode,* with the addition of leoInteg installed and running in it, as
> an extension. It's the normal way to try an extension that's still in
> development.
>

Ok.

*Point 3: *(see pic below for nomenclature) leoInteg adds a (stand-alone)
> view in the side bar, accessible via the 'lion' icon in the activity bar.
> It's also 'reflected' (a "clone" in Leo's parlance if you will) by default
> in the explorer view of the side bar.
>

Thanks for the picture. It does clarify the terminology. I don't see any
lion icon anywhere, either in your picture or my running copy of vs-code.

> *Point 4:* you're right, and that's why i intend on making a small video
> by capturing myself installing and running the whole thing in a
> straightforward and unambiguous way.
>

Thanks.

I'll give some more updates and details later - thanks again for trying and
> reporting !
>

It's my pleasure to help with this project.

Edward

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