JavaScript might be commonplace, but the exciting action is in functional solutions: i.e. Elixir (https://elixir-lang.org/) and Phoenix (https://phoenixframework.org/). Why? Because JavaScript does not teach new ways of thinking. Yes, I know, this is very opinionated... Reinhard
On Sunday, November 8, 2020 at 7:10:35 PM UTC+1 [email protected] wrote: > Hi, > > Adding to the Arjan's excellent suggestion, I would recommend: > > - Computer, Build me an app: https://youtu.be/qqt6YxAZoOc > - The Return of 'Write Less, Do More' by Rich Harris | JSCAMP 2019: > https://youtu.be/BzX4aTRPzno > > For getting the overview you talk about, I would reemphasize the review of > the Jamstack[1] and see and share (maybe with yourself using Telegram or > some instant messaging app) several introductory videos related with > Jamstack, as is my most effective way to train the YouTube algorithm to > recommend me more stuff about that (I usually choose long talks about the > subject I'm interested before going bed, so the algorithm refines its model > to recommend me more long form content about it when I wake up next > morning). > > [1] https://jamstack.org/ > > I have been a "coding researcher" since 2014 when I rediscovered Pharo > and used it for my PhD, but I have also gladly ignored the web development > since mid 90's, focusing my code/tech concerns elsewhere and I'm happy > about that as it allow me to keep an eye on the web as a tech user, without > paying its technical debt of gratuitous over complication. For me the web > is more an "exportation format", so I write in agile languages/environments > like Pandoc's Markdown, or Pharo and export for the web (or for printing). > I write something like [2] and get something like [3] and now that the > Jamstack is here, I see some alignment between what we are doing at the > local community[4] and a more global movement, avoiding mid 90's monoliths > like WordPress, Drupal, Joomla and having a more decoupled and personalized > approach to web presence. Stuff like TinaCMS[5] (despite of being for React > based CMS) are showing that non-technical users can also enjoy the > benefits of decoupled CMS that developers are advocating for. > > [2] > https://mutabit.com/repos.fossil/indieweb/file?name=docs/es/que-por-que.md&txt=1 > [3] > https://mutabit.com/repos.fossil/indieweb/doc/trunk/docs/es/que-por-que.html > [4] https://mutabit.com/repos.fossil/indieweb/ > [5] https://tinacms.org/ > > Also the approach of languages like ClojureScript and Elm to writing for > the web without writing JavaScript but having the possibility to talk with > its wider ecosystem have been refreshing, instead of the web as a > monolingual culture (well trilingual: JS, HTML, CSS) of bureaucratic slow > evolving standards that has been for nearly 20 years (I don't mind that > much on content/HTML or presentation/CSS languages but is really painful in > the programming/JS one). > > So I would say that this is a good time for someone who have avoided the > web development to jump on it from a more diverse, decoupled, simplified > multilingual approach, now that web is maturing and catching with features > some of us thought it should have since its beginnings. The key would be to > have such broad panoramic view of what is possible to avoid "upgrading to > the 90's", as I have seen many local government institutions do when they > start to teach web development and infrastructure. > > Cheers, > > Offray > On 7/11/20 9:04 p. m., Arjan wrote: > > I'd like to suggest looking into Svelte, a modern JavaScript framework > that's compiled at build time, so it has great performance. > > I enjoyed this presentation: Rich Harris - Rethinking reactivity > <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdNJ3fydeao> (Youtube) > > And the learning materials and REPL on https://svelte.dev/ are excellent. > On Saturday, November 7, 2020 at 1:18:49 PM UTC+1 Edward K. Ream wrote: > >> It's becoming clearer what I'll be studying and exploring during the >> sabbatical. >> >> For the last 25+ years I've pretty much ignored web development. That >> surely was a mistake. There is a ton of interesting technology out there. >> >> My initial focus will be on node.js packages, and the frameworks and >> technologies connect to them. I first went down this rabbit hole by looking >> at the yarn.lock file for the jupyterlab project. This file contains all >> the node.js package dependencies. I then googled some dependencies and took >> a look at the packages. >> >> The package-lock.json file shows package dependencies for the leovue and >> leointeg projects. >> >> I then thought to google something like "most popular node.js packages", >> which unlocked 25+ years of programming effort. "Attached" to popular >> node.js packages are major projects/frameworks such as jupyterlab, react, >> angular, ruby on rails, vue.js, etc. etc. >> >> Many of these technologies can be used to build web sites. I'll build a >> vanilla site for Rebecca using WordPress and woocommerce. Ditto for my son >> James. After that, I may play around with various frameworks and website >> builders. >> >> My plan will be to get an overview of the web world first, and then see >> where this overview takes me. >> >> All comments and suggestions welcome. >> >> Edward >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "leo-editor" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/leo-editor/dd3626f5-de2c-4a8e-92a4-3b739b9701d5n%40googlegroups.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/leo-editor/dd3626f5-de2c-4a8e-92a4-3b739b9701d5n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "leo-editor" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. 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