On Thu, Apr 8, 2021 at 7:55 AM Steve Litt <[email protected]> wrote:

Hi Steve. Thanks for the summary.  I'm not sure I have the attributions
correct below, but here are my comments.

> I'm also looking into something called Restructured Text and a program
called Sphinx that seems to be a front end for Restructured Text. It's
complicated and I don't think would be appropriate for Lindsey.

Imo, Sphinx + rST are relatively easy to learn. Those tools should suffice
to write almost any book.

> There's also an outliner called Leo, which you can author entirely as an
outline with headlines that do or don't contain body text, and then (I
think) you can run a converter program, possibly one you'd need to create
yourself, to turn it into a ready made book, probably either PDF or
HTML/ePub.

Hmm. It would be nice if commentators tried out the tools they are
describing.

Leo's rst3 command is the "converter" program. rst3 complements rST/sphinx
as follows:

- Can generate multiple documents from a single outline: one per @rst node
en.
- Automagically creates rST section markup using outline structure.
  This means you can reorganize your paper or book freely, a huge advantage.
- Optionally generates intermediate files for sphinx.

> As we have been describing on leo-editor, rst3 supports a very few
frills, including ignoring parts of the @rst tree entirely, or not
generating section markup for one or more nodes, thereby allowing authors
to organize long sections using suboutline.

> This isn't appropriate for Lindsey, because it's a huge system with huge
capabilities requiring a lot of knowledge: It's a commitment. I'm copying
the Leo list on this email.

Did the commentator mean that Leo itself is a huge system? True enough, but
working through Leo's tutorials <http://leoeditor.com/tutorial.html> is all
someone needs to do to start writing their opus.

> I feel everybody's pain. As far as I know, there's not a single piece of
software out there that authors quickly and yet does consistent,
styles-based formatting and outputs to both PDF and HTML. But I'll keep
searching.

To summarize my responses to such discussions:

1. You're screwed if you insist on wysiwyg. How do you create a table of
contents?

2. Some people spend their whole life complaining about missing tools,
without any clear idea of what they want. Others use the tools that do
exist.  Some people even help improve the tools they use :-)

Edward

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