We do need to be able to load a layout if the setting for the startup 
layout is missing or specifies a non-existent layout. If no one objects, I 
will make that be "vertical-thirds". (Actually, if the setting is missing 
one already gets a usable layout, similar to vertical thirds but (I think) 
with no slot for VR/VR3.  It's probably better to be explicit about which 
layout will be used, I think).

On Wednesday, October 23, 2024 at 8:19:36 AM UTC-4 Thomas Passin wrote:

> On Wednesday, October 23, 2024 at 7:01:07 AM UTC-4 [email protected] 
> wrote:
>
> Hello Edward & Thomas,
>
> Edward K. Ream schrieb am Dienstag, 22. Oktober 2024 um 18:12:05 UTC+2:
>
> I performed an initial test using the current 'devel' branch in my Debian 
> VM. - Here are my notes:
>
> ###
>
> * Start with 'qt-layout-name = vertical-thirds' & only VR3 enabled.
> * List ~ relevant ~ commands - See "Log-001".
> * Try 'layout-legacy' - OK -> Layout changed (Ascii-Icon: " _ | _ ", still 
> w/o VR pane ...
> ** -> 'Legacy' layout is what's still shown in the screenshot for Leo's 
> main window on the home page.*
> *
> * Try 'layout-restore-default' - OK -> Layout changed back (Ascii-Icon: " 
> - | "), still w/o VR pane ...
> * Try 'layout-big-tree' - OK? -> Layout changed (Ascii-Icon: " I "), now 
> with VR pane using VR3 as  ~ renderer ~ ...
> ** ==> Is this implicit 'activation' intended / wanted ?*
>
>
> Leo has always had VR available if VR3 is not enabled, even if VR isn't 
> enabled in settings either. The intent with these layouts is that the 
> VR/VR3 slot will be used by VR3 if it is enabled otherwise by VR.  If you 
> have both VR and VR3 enabled that's not harmful but VR won't know where it 
> should be shown and if it does show it won't be in the appointed place in 
> the layout.
>  
>
> * Try 'layout-restore-default' - OK -> Layout changed (Ascii-Icon: " - | | 
> "), still with VR pane ...
> * Try 'layout-quadrant' - OK -> Layout changed to 'legacy' (Ascii-Icon: " 
> + "), still with VR pane ...
>
> ** ==> What's the difference b/w 'legacy' & 'quadrant' command ?* ==> I do 
> not see any & would remove 'quadrant' !*
>
>
> There isn't a difference and "legacy" has already been removed. It is 
> still aliased to "quadrant" for the time being in case anyone is using it 
> by that name.  I think that Edward may want to remove "quadrant" as well 
> but that's not decided for sure.
>  
>
> * Try 'layout-restore-to-setting' - OK? -> Layout changed (Ascii-Icon: " - 
> | | "), still with VR pane ...
>
> ** ==> What's the difference b/w the two 'restore' commands ?* ==> I do 
> not see any & would remove 'default' !*
>
>
> I agree.  They are two names that actually run the same code.   
> 'layout-restore-default' was a weak choice of name on my part so I added 
> 'layout-restore-to-setting' as an alias for it. I'm not sure if we will 
> retire the first one, again in case someone is using it, but I wouldn't be 
> surprised.
>  
>
> ** ==> What's the difference b/w 'fallback' & 'vertical-thirds' command ?* 
> ==> I do not see any & would remove 'fallback' !*
>
> "Fallback" was a provisional name I used for my preferred layout when I 
> was developing this layout system so I always could "fall back" to it if 
> necessary to do actual work (i.e., not just work on the layout system),. It 
> did not have a slot for VR/VR3 but I could open VR3 where I wanted anyway. 
> Now the two names are aliases for each other and "fallback" will probably 
> go away soon.
>
>

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