On Fri, Aug 13, 2004 at 10:50:32AM +0200, w.szukalski wrote:
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> Other lists I had subscribed to without any problem.
> -------------------------- body of email ------------------------
> My first email (07.07.04) run:
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> >I tried to compile 'amaya-8.5' with the configuration options:
> >
> >   --with-x --with-motif --without-gtk --without-gl
> >
> >'configure' found the 'lesstif' path automatically. But the com-
> >pilation failed. I had to change the source code slightly.
> >
> >When I sent a dif-file to [EMAIL PROTECTED], I got the following
> >answer:
> >
> >From: Irene Vatton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: Re: amaya-8.5
> >
> >> My system: linux-2.4.26, gcc-3.3
> >>
> >> I tried to compile amaya-8.5 with:
> >>
> >> --with-x --with-motif
> >>
> >> and had to make some changes (see amaya-8.5.dif) to be successful.
> >
> >Hum, this option is now progressively removed from the Amaya source
> >because a lot of new dialogs cannot work with the Motif toolkit.
> >
> >###################################
> >Does this answer mean that the Motif toolkit is out of date?
> >
> >winfried
> 
> Thomas Adam answered:
> 
> >No it does not! Just because one application changes the way things
> >work, it is not a good generalisation to make the assumption that the
> >libraries "must be out of date". Thanks to the work of some very skilled
> >people here, I have managed to compile motif applications that were
> >originally built against libc4 -- and that *is* going back somewhat.
> >
> >Conversley, I have compiled very recent applications against the lesstif
> >libraries, a huge case in point is "antiright" which extends 'mwm' which
> >is what these people also built.
> >
> >Motif is by no means dead. It might have been overshadowed by other
> >widget sets/bindings such as Qt and GTK, but so what? I *love* motif,
> >and so I *love* lesstif.
> >
> >With respect to Amaya, that was clearly a conscious descision by the
> >developers of that application, so you really need to ask them or check
> >the CHANGELOG files to find out what happened.
> >
> >May the good work continue. :)
> >
> >-- Thomas Adam
> 
> I was looking for another email pointing to the same problem. The
> email I found while looking for UTF-8 support. But I had made a
> print copy, so I cite some lines from this copy:
> 
> >To     : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >From   : Juliusz Chroboczek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Cc     : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Hello world in UTF-8/X11
> >Date   : 17 Jan 2003
> >
> >MR>I have a Motif/Lesstif-based program that I'd like to
> >MR>internationalize and needs to display a UTF-8 encoded string.
> >
> >You'll need to write your own Unicode widgets.(...)
> >I would strongly recommend that you port your application
> >to Gtk+ 2.
> >
> >Juliusz
> 
> Now you should see that I did not ask: is anybody out there who
> does not love the *tif-toolkit. The question is more something
> like: is the *tif-toolkit ready for the future?
> 
> Compiling against libc4 may be an enterprise. But as long as the
> toolkit does not support UTF-8, it seems to be "strongly recommended
> to use GTK+ 2".
> 
> winfried
> 
> 
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Why don't you request that your system administrator / head bofh adds the
postmaster alias to your mail system? You could also quote the error
reponse from sourceforge's smtp daemon regarding RFC non-compliance..

Sorry for the off-topic reply.

dan.

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