That is confusing the whole thing.
John Abizaid has got some ideas, and the Baker-Hamilton commission is
looking. I want to hear from my fellow Republicans on Capitol Hill.
NATSIOS: I'm not going to go into that.
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I'm going to leave it at that.
And I'm looking forward to my meetings with the President and the Prime
Minister here shortly. Human rights abuses are not negotiable.
Human rights abuses are not negotiable. Well, I don't read that paper
often. And a hybrid means the UN and the AU would work together.
We need an effective cease-fire that really works and a mechanism for
monitoring that.
NATSIOS: Well, against the rebel groups.
We don't believe that Kyoto is the answer.
I talked to John about Iraq.
It's very clear they want to have this resolved before they leave. It is
the fact that there's a new Secretary General, and the fact that the AU
mandate runs out.
So it is not accurate to say that if we simply deal with the Arab
militia problem that everything is going to go away.
And that's what I will do. We need to put a time limit on where this is
going.
So you cannot conduct diplomacy effectively in the media.
There's a traditional system where a sheikh or a chief sits down, makes
a judgment and the sheikhs will negotiate with each other and then blood
money is paid. We're in the sun, you're not. One route is the route that
is laid out in several documents. NATSIOS: At this point, I have not
offered any incentives publicly or privately to the Sudanese Government.
Bush and Prime Minister John Howard of Australia, walk through the
courtyard of the Sheraton Hanoi Hotel Friday, Nov. They need to be back
in their villages. NATSIOS: That is correct. I've told them that it's
very difficult in the atmosphere of Washington with the atrocities going
on right now. NATSIOS: Well, against the rebel groups.
If that's the case, he's having his day in court, in an interesting way.
And but let me just add this.
It's more subtle and nuanced. Human rights abuses are not negotiable.
I appreciate the Australian contributions to helping this young
democracy succeed.
There was a fellow from the Sudanese Embassy who was quite forthright in
the suspicions that he had. NATSIOS: Yes, Elise, go ahead.
I'm meeting with all our partners in the six-party talks.
How do you get the commanders, for example, to sit down and talk with
the government if there's a major battle going on?
We will not negotiate that.
So you cannot conduct diplomacy effectively in the media. So I really
think we should try to deal with reality.
And the Australian media will be aware of the upcoming Switkowski report
that is going to deal with the whole question of nuclear power in the
overall equation.
NATSIOS: George, I mentioned several things that they had not agreed to
before Addis that they've agreed to now.
The Prime Minister brought it up. And they are still in effect according
to the DPA. And as I study many of them carefully, we don't have as much
leverage as we'd like to have. NATSIOS: Sue, don't put it in that tone.
Kofi will call and say, Andrew, would you call this person. They're
allies with the Janjaweed. Can you tell us what they are, and will you
be taking them up?
And as I study many of them carefully, we don't have as much leverage as
we'd like to have. Yet, the world that we live in today is one where
they want things to happen immediately.
And they are very upset.
And does this agreement in part improve facilitate the chances for
President al-Bashir to meet with you next time? Now this is the third
war, by far the worst.
I found it really interesting, for example, that the Prime Minister's
children were educated in the United States. But the message I had to
them is the UN and the AU are in charge of this, and I'm helping them.
There's a traditional system where a sheikh or a chief sits down, makes
a judgment and the sheikhs will negotiate with each other and then blood
money is paid.
I think they are willing to deal with some of the operational issues as
to how the disarmament of heavy weaponry is to take place.
I don't know if we have any power to do that and I haven't raised it and
we're not dealing with it.
I'm having to learn how to do that.


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