On Thursday 26 May 2005 11:02, Robert Lee Taylor wrote:
> On Wed, 2005-25-05 at 14:37 +0530, Chakkaradeep C C wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > so being this case...why hasnt LFS not gone for a Package
> > Management??...pls dont tell it is "Your Distro,Your Rules" becoz
> > unless something is reliable and stable one wont afford for
> > it.......so answering as YDYR would be vague!....or can v use
> > Emerge in LFS??....using and re-suing is open source rite?....
> >
> > have anybdy integrated Emerge in LFS??.......
> >
> > with regards,
> > C.C.Chakkaradeep
>
> Are you a complete moron?
>
> Don't you have a clue about LFS? If you want the Gentoo package
> manager, why don't you just use Gentoo?
>
> The purpose of LFS is to be used as a staging ground for LEARNING
> (customizing?) LINUX not INSTALLING LINUX. This isn't a distro so
> much as a LEARNING CLASS. Why do you want to turn LFS into something
> else? If you want a package manager there are plenty of distros to
> use, from Debian to Gentoo.
>
> To whomever controls patch submissions, please don't let a package
> manager become part of the distro, or become DEPENDENT on the package
> manager. If i wanted to learn how to bootstrap a distro WITH A
> PACKAGEMANAGER i would use Gentoo. There would be no point to using
> LFS. The great thing about LFS is noobs get to learn LINUX, not HOW
> TO USE A {expletive deleted} PACKAGE MANAGER.
>
> Man!
>
> I use LFS to LEARN about linux, not hide behind a goddamned package
> manager. Please, whatever you do, keep LFS true to it's goals, do not
> let it become yet another distro. What makes LFS special is not
> being l33t or any {expletive deleted} like that, what makes it special
> is having to do everything manually to set it up so that us newbs get
> a chance to see the infrastructure of linux and how it works.
>
> God, this world is full of morons, everyone perpetually wants to turn
> something that works into something that doesn't.
>
> Chakkardeep, I am dissapointed that you would suggest something so
> gloriously stupid, especially since you would do nothing more than
> replicate what Gentoo is already doing?
>
> If you want a package manager and an LFS style distro use Gentoo,
> they have already done all the work, do not ruin what has been built
> here.
>
> Idiots.
The original query was a valid query except, as has already been pointed
out, it ought to have been addressed here in lfs-chat rather than in
the support group. Your rant has even less place in lfs-support. You
are of course entitled to your opinions, but calling other people idiot
because your opinion is different is out of order. Remember that folks
are entitled to use their lfs systems for whatever they please, even
running winhose apps under wine if that's what takes their fancy.
Finally, since when does adding a packet manager turn lfs into a
distro? Rather than making unsubstantiated statements why not give us
your thoughts as to why you think packet managers are so evil?
FWIW I have no use for a packet manager. Updating happens by redoing the
entire system. I have absolutely no intention mucking about with
untested dependencies in my base system. The various packages that make
up an lfs system are tuned to each other. Installing new packets that
I'm unsure I'm going to be keeping happens with
--prefix=/somewhere-clean.
Regards,
Allard
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