On Sun, Apr 30, 2006 at 09:29:16AM +0100, Matt Darcy wrote:
> 
> 1.) Kernel Headers, yes you knew this was coming but its certainly worth 
> talking about, a lots been said on this but its really still unclear of 
> direction. I suppose the discussion should center around

For LFS-6.2, I recommend patching in inotify and then moving trunk to
Jim's script. This is the course of action I am working on in my
sandbox.

> 2.) Udev -  This again has been a hot topic of many projects, but with 
> LFS now dropping hotplug I feel it important ti discuss and clear up a 
> few areas

Again, here's what I'm working on: A rules file that is not minimal WRT
creating properly named devices, but is minimal in terms of
configuration if the device cannot be reasonably used with a stock LFS
build. Also, the rules will generally be x86-only.

To keep things coordinated amongst the projects, we really should be
utilizing a more modular ruleset. I envision a common ruleset that
covers all devices that are common across all arches, then additional
rules files for the different arch-specific devices. Obviously, LFS will
x86-centric. CLFS can then use our common rules file and extend it
modularly with arch-specific devices. And BLFS can show people how to
configure the group and perms (if the device requires BLFS).

> 3.)  users and group creation, I'm reluctant to touch on this again as I 
> know its close to a few individuals hearts and a lot of time has been 
> put into this, but due to the ude discussion I think its worth at least 
> touching upon.

If BLFS does the udev configuration, then it creates the group/user. If
it is a device that is usable by the base system, then the base book
configures it. A disk is usable, so group disk stays. floppy and cdrom
are reasonable groups, and their devices are usable in a base system, so
I think they should stay, too. Audio and video groups, however, aren't
needed.

Depending on how one looks at things, we have either 99, 499, or 999
UID/GID's free for system users and groups. I don't see why it should be
difficult to come to an arrangement. Let the base books provide a base
setup and let the extended book provide the extended setup.

However, I do agree that if a system is in place, and cannot be proven
to be faulty, then that system should be the base upon which future
decisions are made.

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