On Sat, Aug 08, 2015 at 04:01:52PM +0100, Ken Moffat wrote:

Adding back lfs-dev : the mail was headed for [ blfs-dev ] and I did
not spot it had originally been Cc'd.  So, keeping all of this for
some context, and adding more detail.

> On Fri, Aug 07, 2015 at 09:01:37PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote:
> > Ken Moffat wrote:
> > >
> > >I can see some benefits to the change - on my netbook it looks good
> > >and has a small margin on the right of the page (with all navigation
> > >on the right).  But on my desktop it still wastes space at the right
> > >in any wide window, and seems to have a hardcoded maximum usable
> > >line  length.  So no, that was not what I'm saying.
> > >
> 
> That should have been "with all navigation on the left".
> > >>
> > >>As Ken wrote, I read it perfectly in my tablet, netbook, notebook and
> > >>desktop.
> > >>
> > >
> > >For LFS it now looks ok.  But for BLFS I have raised questions,
> > >quite apart from the waste of space in right margins in wide
> > >windows.
> > 
> > I agree that at some window sizes the right margin is too big.  I'm sure
> > there is a way to force the icons to always be on the left (or right if that
> > is preferable).
> 
> Left is probably preferable.  The right for Next is good, but only
> if the text in the link can be reasonably fitted in, so I suspect
> that always on the left should be preferred.
> > 
> > The really nice thing from my perspective is that the links do not scroll
> > with the text.  They are always visible.
> > 
> >    -- Bruce
> > 
> Yes, I forgot to mention that - it is a real benefit.  When I first
> looked, I was on my netbook and I thought "Mmmmm, nice, shiny."  But
> I decided to look on my main system before sending a first reply.
> 
> At the moment I have not attempted to see how it behaves in qupzilla
> or konqueror.  I assume that links or lynx will not be altered.
> 
> ĸen

Well, I've now tried it in qupzilla - you win some, you lose some.

Again, my qupzilla window is fairly wide.  Text is very readable.
So far, most text in the links fits on one line.  The links to
Adjusting the Toolchain take two lines, but neither is feint.  This
suggests that the behaviour might be browser-dependant.

Links to Procps-ng-3.3.10, E2fsprogs-1.42.13, XML::Parser-2.44,
Gettext-0.19.5.1 all appear on one line so it looks as if words in a
link will not be broken [ no - see below ]

The losses: in at least 6.33 (bison) and 6.50 (intltool) the
commands (configure for bison, sed and install for intltool) do not
all show because the text area is too narrow so there are horizontal
scrollbars on the commands.

Firefox has now updated on this machine - the intltool page shows
the same horizontal scrollbars, but the Prev link to Gettext has
split after the hyphen.  I see that on this machine (not the one I
was using yesterday!) the text in firefox is nice and large :
possibly I have different preference settigns.

Now that I have noticed the horizontal scrollbars on individual
command blocks, I really dislike them.  Interestingly, if I zoom
*out* to make the text smaller, I get a narrow central column for
the text and the scrollbars do NOT disappear, but the Gettext link
eventually drops back to one line, and hten the white margins beside
the text jsut get wider..  This is on firefox.

ĸen
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