On Sun, 25 Aug 2019 at 21:24, Jean-Marc Pigeon via lfs-dev
<[email protected]> wrote:

> Lets be blunt here, ;)

Why?

I think we are expressing the same sentiment, although I'd
add a couple of observations to your points, if I may.

> Are you telling to us?, you blindly follow all book directives and
> you were successful first strike? Amazing! Bravo! (I really mean it,
> I was not successful my first time)

Not sure that's relevant to any

"Should the Books have a project management section"

discussion?

When I first tried out LFS, there were a number of errors in the commands,
however, over the years, these have been ironed out and I'd suggest that the
current books are much more "correct", as a result of the approach that is
taken to producing them - that is, the XML schemas, the use of entities to
abstract package details and so on.

The Books, viewd as a project, are really well constructed now, indeed it's
fairly simple to combine bits of LFS and BLFS in the same book (* see below)

Yes there will always be the chance of an error creeping in when a package
is updated, or if package creep occurs and a new package is added, but these
just get reported to the mailing list - so hardly a full blown project
management
execise.

> - Did you notice 8.2 and 9.0-rc are not including the same
>    packages, neither they are assembled in the same order?

Actually, as one of the people who strived to get away from the
default package ordering (more or less alphabetcial once a core
set of packages had been installed) when the SysV and SysD
books started to diverge, yes I am aware of that.


> You seem to be confused "project management skill" and "package
> management tools".

No: I will happily claim that I am not confusing the two.

My approach to "package management" can be seen here (* from above)

   http://youvegotbuckleys.org.nz/LFS/LFS-BOOK.html

whereas I consider taking a "project management" approach to
building an LFS system to be something extra, something that
an individual chooses to do, above and beyond following the
instructions in the Books.

Again, I come back to the idea that the Books, if followed, are
a self-contained whole that will give the implementer a working
system.

However, if an implemneter wants to place other "project management"
techniques around their build (After all - Your distro: your rules) then
great - but that is "something extra".


> The thing I try to share with Akira, LFS is big and interesting
> project, worth the effort.

As I said, In complete agreement with that, just not the original
assertion about there being a "major shortcoming", vis:

> Because I think consider a major shortcoming of
> the current LFS Book is failure to discuss project management,

as I think that does the Books, and the LFS project as a whole, a
major disservice.

Kevin
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