On Tue, Feb 4, 2020 at 1:37 PM Pierre Labastie via lfs-dev <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Le 04/02/2020 à 07:47, Walter P. Little via lfs-dev a écrit :
> > Hi All -
> >
> > I recently volunteered to give a talk next month about LFS/BLFS to the
> San
> > Fernando Valley Linux User Group (Los Angeles) that one of my employees
> organizes.
> >
> > The main purpose of my talk will be to inspire people in the audience to
> > embark on their own LFS journey, as it is probably the *best* way to see
> how
> > all the pieces of a Linux machine are put together (certainly was for me
> when
> > I did my first LFS build in 2003, and has continued to be as I build a
> new one
> > roughly annually since).
> >
> > I plan to outline the basic process at a high level using various
> pre-staged
> > VM snapshots to demo selected points of interest.  The idea being to go
> from
> > zero to a functioning environment in about an hour... so a *lot* of
> details
> > will be omitted (therefore not cheating the audience of the opportunity
> to
> > learn on their own after the talk).
> >
> > If I may ask a couple questions of this group:
> >
> > 1. What parts of the process are newcomers tending  to get hung up on
> that I
> > should address specifically? (Host system requirements comes to mind...)
>
> In addition to what Bruce and others said:
> - avoid the pdf version for copy/paste, it sometimes insert spaces at the
> end
> of the lines, which defeats the backslash line continuation character. This
> leads to weird errors not always easy to diagnose.
> - in any case, be very careful with backslash line continuation characters.
> One common error I've seen on -support is people believing that settings of
> CC, AR, etc in -pass2 pages come as a commands by themselves, instead of
> being
> part of the configure command
> - commands for gcc-passx are somewhat complicated. Try to analyze them and
> _really_ check that the intended commands are applied
> - it's very easy to skip a line or a character when doing copy/paste.
> Always
> double check what is written on screen. If anything goes wrong, erase the
> build directory(ies) and extract the tarball again
> - refrain from using jhalfs, at least for the first few times when doing
> lfs,
> but it's a good exercise to write scripts for part or all of the build.
> - very frequent error: not setting LFS as root, or not su to user lfs after
> logging out and logging in.
>
> >
> > 2. Is there anything coming up on the horizon that you’d like me to
> mention?>
> > I am looking forward to promoting LFS and informing  people about this
> > wonderful resource you all have worked so hard on all these years.   I
> don’t
> > chime in on this list very often, but I’m extremely grateful for how LFS
> > continues to stay current/relevant while staying true to its long
> standing
> > mission of being an educational tool.  That’s because of the dedicated
> efforts
> > of this group of editors and contributors, so thanks for all you do!
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > -wpl
> >
> >
> >
>
> Thanks Bruce, Tom, and Pierre for the feedback.  I will incorporate these
things into my talk.

-wpl


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