Hi Larry and Ken

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> ... is that Ken hit the nail on the head: 
> 
> > ...  That's why I really feel uncertain about the "learning by
> > building" part of such a short course - much of the learning comes
> > from making mistakes, learning how to look at what you did (history,
> > then finding a way to log what happened, then realising you needthe
> > error messages as well...), and finding solutions...
> 
> In general, everything else being equal (eg., learning styles, student
> level of knowledge prior to class, etc.), it's been my experience that 
> those students who fare well down the road are those who don't "get
> it the first time". 

Sounds plausible to me. To repair the broken system could give more
insight than successfully building it according to a "fool-proof"
recipe.

BUT, I expect quite a number of students to lose patience, start
complaining and miss the point. OK, may be I'm doing them an injustice,
or they not mature enough, I don't know.

> My experience has been that it's far less important to teach someone how
> to perform a specific task than it is to teach them how to learn - 

As a general rule, yes no doubt.

> which most definitely includes how to troubleshoot, as that invariably 
> causes one to seek out information from different sources, how to think
> in a methodical manner, etc. 

I never looked at troubleshooting that way, thanks for the insight.

> Also, whenever I've had students who were way ahead of the curve, I've 
> always tried to somehow interest them in taking what they had
> accomplished "to the next level" - enhancing whatever they had already 
> done or built, implementing their solution in a different way, etc. -
> just so long as they weren't "resting on their laurels." 

Can you elaborate on that?

> >  As the tutor, you ought to know more than what you teach the
> > students ...
> 
> while that's certainly true (eg., mastery of the material one is teaching
> is important; no doubt about that), as a teacher, I strongly believe that
> if you're not learning about as much from your students as they are from 
> you, then something is wrong. 

Agree. On a first glance mastery is a must for the tutor. In the IT at
least, things change so fast, "learning by doing (teaching)" is 
unavoidable. ;)

CU
Steve

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