Wolfgang wrote on 22 Sep 08:

>Hi Randhir,
 
> that is correct that you cannot boot if the MBR is gone or corrupt. But 
>in this case you need only a bootable medium e.g. LFS live CD/DVD and 
>then you can repair the MBR with dd command.
 
>Another alternative is if you have a discete drive to write the MBR to a 
>discete with dd.
 
 
>Wolfgang

Hi Wolfgang,

That is very good. I have checked and seen that your first command does, in 
fact, copy the MBR on to the file: /boot/mbr_$TS.
However, I am not very clear whether, it will copy the file back to MBR from 
within the 'Live LFS CD/DVD', without first chrooting into  your linux 
installed on /dev/hda. I shall try it next time when I have a similar mishap.

Have not understood "Another alternative is if you have a discete drive to 
write the MBR to a discete with dd." Do you mean a disket?

Anyway thanks a lot for the responses. It is a pleasure to converse with you!

Regards,

Randhir

>>>Introduction:
>>>--------------
>>>In a multi-OS boot system, booting is done from MBR with Grub or such 
>>>boot-loader. In case the MBR is corrupted or over-written>>>because of any 
>>>reason, such as re-installing Windows, the booting through Grub can be 
>>>restored from MBR, without need to>>>re-install Linux.
>>>
>>>Steps:
>>>------
>>>1. Download an LFS live DVD image from www.linuxfromscratch.org, and burn 
>>>the iso image onto a DVD. (This is a very handy tool>>>and, hence, should 
>>>always be available). If it is not with you presently, use your windows or 
>>>other installation to download and>>>burn. Boot from the live  LFS DVD.
>>>2. Type the command 'net-setup' and setup your internet and download or read 
>>>online the LFS Book. Open with lynx for reference,>>>if
>>>needed.
>>>3. Give the following commands in succession: (These commands are from the 
>>>LFS book - only selected here for the limited job>>>to be done)
>>>     export LFS=/mnt/lfs
>>>     mount -v -t ext3 /dev/ $LFS                           (where  is the 
>>> partition on which your linux exists that you wish to>>>boot.)
>>>     /sbin/swapon -v /dev/                                      (where  is 
>>> the swap partition on your hard disk.)
>>>     mount -v --bind /dev $LFS/dev                                (mounting 
>>> and populating /dev)
>>>     mount -vt devpts devpts $LFS/dev/pts                       (mounting 
>>> virtual kernel File System)
>>>     mount -vt tmpfs shm $LFS/dev/shm
>>>     mount -vt proc proc $LFS/proc
>>>     mount -vt sysfs sysfs $LFS/sys
>>>     chroot "$LFS" $LFS                                               
>>> (entering the chroot environment - this command will show root prompt 
>>> on>>>the
>>>                                                                             
>>>          partition that was mounted above. Check and ensure that it is 
>>> the>>>right one.)
>>>     /bin/bash --login +h                                                 
>>> (shall bring the same prompt as above but with its environment)
>>>
>>>4. Installing Grub on to MBR: Give following commands:
>>>
>>>     grub                                                                    
>>>   (Note that grub does not recognize scaci drives etc. For it everything 
>>> is>>>'hd'. So
>>>                                                                             
>>>          if you have drive such as 'sda', for grub it shall remain as 'hd' 
>>> only)
>>>        root (hdx,z)                                                         
>>>    (Where 'x' is the number of the drive starting at zero and 'z' is 
>>> the>>>number of
>>>                                                                             
>>>           linux partition on that drive)
>>>     setup hdx                                                               
>>>  (If you had a working system before the mishap and you already had>>>the 
>>>                                                                             
>>>           'stage1' and 'stage2' in place, grub will show success.)
>>>5. Unmount the various virtual kernel file systems mounted at Step 3 above 
>>>as also the $LFS partition and reboot the system.
>>>6. The system should boot normally unless something else had also gone 
>>>wrong. The things can go wrong in that the splash>>>screen may not be the 
>>>same what you had earlier. For example, I boot from openSUSE and its splash 
>>>screen is different but what>>>I got after rebooting above was different and 
>>>after booting with that grub menu I got kernel panic at some stage of 
>>>booting. But>>>the grub shall be available and you could give it the 
>>>commands by pressing 'c' on your keyboard. Like earlier, give it the 
>>>following>>>commands, in succession:
>>>
>>>     root (hdx,z)
>>>     kernel (hdx,z)/boot/vmlinuz (or whatever is the kernel name in your 
>>> boot partition)
>>>     initrd (hdx,z)/boot/initrd      (or the specific name of your initrd 
>>> file in boot partition)
>>>     boot
>>>
>>>The system should boot. After booting the system you could carryout whatever 
>>>further correction you wish to do. For example in>>>my case, the X refused 
>>>to start. So I had to setup grub again here through 'YAST'. After that the 
>>>normal booting came up with its>>>normal splash etc.
>>>
>>>Conclusion:
>>>-------------
>>>If any such mishap ocurs, there is no need to panick. The good old LFS is 
>>>there for your rescue. Needless to say that there are a>>>number of other 
>>>means available for rescue. Personally, however, I find this simple. I have 
>>>used these steps a number of times,>>>mainly because of the need to 
>>>re-install windows Vista, which goes off pretty often, in my case.
>>>
>>>------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 18:00:30 +0200
>>From: Wolfgang Messingschlager 
>>Subject: Restoring grub on MBR
>>To: LFS Support List 

>>Hi Randir,
>> 
>> 
>>very interesting info. But if you install often or sometimes Windows I 
>>prefer to create the partitions on Linux and then save the MBR in a file 
>>with the dd command e.g.
>> 
>>TS=`date +%Y%m%d`
>>dd if=/dev/hda of=/boot/mbr_$TS bs=512 count=1
>> 
>>This can be done on a regular basis e.g. as a cron job.
>> 
>>Then you can easily restore your MBR with dd as well e.g.
>> 
>>dd if=/boot/mbr_... of=/dev/hda bs=512 count=1
>> 
>> 
>>Wolfgang
>>
>>------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 
>>Randhir Phagura wrote

>>Hi Wolfgang,

>>That is a smart one. It can, probably, be done from within a linux system 
>>after it boots. But once the MBR is gone, booting into linux>>is not possible.

>>Regards,

>>Randhir Phagura


 
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