On 11/26/2013 07:53 AM, William Harrington wrote:
On Nov 25, 2013, at 8:06 PM, Dan McGhee wrote:

There were many allusions to the "new naming convention."  enpxx for
ethernet and wlpxx for wireless.  Where does this name convention
exist?  I remember that xlnglp posted about what he had discovered in
the "different" names, but I can't find what he wrote.  I don't
remember
if he had identified a source.
Possibly it came from here: 
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/ConsistentNetworkDeviceNaming

Check out biosdevname

Sincerely,

William Harrington
Thanks, William. That link led down an interesting path. It appears that this "name thing" originated at Dell. I don't know if the fellow who came up with the idea is a maintainer for UDEV or not. Anyway, The above link led me to this:

http://marc.info/?l=linux-hotplug&m=128892593821639&w=2

It is an interesting discussion on how to implement or cancel the "name thing" in udev. This, and William's suggestion, led me to "biosdevname." It is a utility to take a kernel device name and return "the BIOS-given name it 'should' be." (That from the biosdevname man page.) [semi-rant]There is no indication of the identity of the "true BIOS name giver."[/semi-rant]

Also from the biosdevname man page:

The *physical* policy is the current default. However, when invoking biosdevname in udev rules, one should always specify the policy you want, as the default has changed over time.
The *physical* policy uses the following scheme:

em<port>[_<virtual instance>]
for embedded NICs p<slot>p<port>[_<virtual instance>]
    for cards in PCI slots
The
    *all_ethN* policy makes a best guess at what the device order
    should be, with embedded devices first, PCI cards in ascending
    slot order, and ports in ascending PCI bus/device/function order
    breadth-first. However, this policy /does/ not work if your PCI
    devices are hot-plugged or hot-pluggable, including the virtual
    functions on an SR-IOV device. In a hot-plug scenario, each
    separate udev instance will be invoked in parallel, while the
    device tree is still being populated with new devices. Each udev
    instance will see a different PCI tree, and thus cannot provide
    consistent enumeration. Use of this policy should be limited to
    only scenarios where all PCI devices are present at boot (cold-plug).


So, it appears that this "name thing" is a "udev thing" and not a "kernel thing." If my conclusions are correct, then I still wonder why Alan's NIC, which is the same as mine, got a different name. The only difference I know of so far is that he used LFS_SVN and I used LFS-7.4. I'm discounting the kernel difference. I don't know if there's any difference in results between UDEV-206 (LFS-7.4) and UDEV-208(LFS-SVN). The only other possible difference is that Alan may have added "UDEV Extras from BLFS.

On the other hand, I can understand another possible difference unless I don't understand what "hot-plug" means. To me it's the ability to "plug something in" while the computer is running and have it work--much like a USB device. If my NIC is hot-pluggable, I would have to open the laptop case to remove it.

Also, in the last 3-4 months, I've not seen anyone encounter this situation but Alan. Does it exist in LFS, as written, yet?

I personally don't care what my NIC is named. I just want to be able to make it work if it doesn't.

Dan

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