On 28-06-2020 14:07, Scott Andrews wrote:
On Sun, 28 Jun 2020 13:42:10 +0200
Frans de Boer <[email protected]> wrote:

LS,

Currently, the previous chapter 5 has been split into 3 separate
chapters. It is obvious why the new chapter 7 exists.
However, chapter 5 and 6 are a bit puzzling. There are no extra
actions between chapter 6 and 5, in fact one could argue that 5 and 6
can be fussed together.

The only reason I can think of to explain the separation between
chapter 5 and 6, is that chapter 5 provides the basic building blocks
to compile the remaining of chapter 6. Which can be reused if (some
of) chapter 6 needs a rebuild. After all, the next step is a
different architecture where this approach can be used.
That said, if the compiler or glibc is chanced, one has to rebuild
chapter 5 anyhow. Looking at the packages in chapter 6, there is just
only 2x extra time involved to compile them. Especially when there is
no testing done, as was possible under the previous releases.

Maybe one could explain this a little deeper?

Sorry to high jack you thread, not my intention, only to comment on this
new warp in the space continuum.

I have looked at this "new version" way of building LFS and I believe
it will create many issues for me as someone that uses a package
manager.  I also so see no real advantage over the old way.  I also use
the overlay file system for the kernel so when building chapter 6 (old
way) only /tools is present in the "host" file system along with all the
scripts etc that I use to build LFS. The "host" that I used to build
the tool chain is completely removed. I don't like mixing the tool chain
into the root file system ( yes I know in the old way some links are
needed). I will continue with using the old way, and I think
it is time for me to split from the LFS project and go my own way.

Sorry Scott, I see no package manager in de re-styled LFS. Just as in the previous version, there is some talk about a package manager, but that is it, just highlighting the differences and/or possibilities.

Don't forget that the project is to assist others in building their own basic linux system. As the world continues, we must take into account that different architectures will be come into demand. Using a textbook example for cross-compiling is a start. In fact, this layout has benefits over the previous versions in that we don't have all kind of workarounds to build things and paves the way for future LFS's.

--- Frans.

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