On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 06:36:45PM -0500, Burt P. wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 5:46 PM, Jean-Baptiste Kempf <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> > On 25 Aug, Burt P. wrote :
> >> HDCD coding is hidden in some CD audio, but not all, and using it is
> >> completely optional.
> >
> > But you can detect that, cannot you?
> 
> Yes, but it requires scanning the whole audio to know if you will be
> using peak extend.
> PE requires and 6dB of room at the top for the expanded peaks.
> So you have to make two full passes, or just always apply -6dB to all
> 16-bit audio in case HDCD/PE appears.
> The current implementation does the latter, because we only get the
> audio one frame of a few thousand samples at a time.
> We need at least one or two seconds, 44100-88200 samples, to know we
> will catch an HDCD packet.
> There are some HDCD-CDs where only one track had HDCD encoding,
> because it was a compilation or something.
> In this case, you could have a single file flac+cue being processed,
> and not know for 20 minutes into the audio that you need room for peak
> extend.
> 
> Audio players can scan ahead, and choose to use HDCD processing or not.
> They can even enable-disable per track, or when seeking, by scanning
> ahead or behind a couple seconds, without the listener noticing in
> most cases.
> For avconv/ffmpeg (at least the cli), however, I think it is best left
> to the user.

I'm with j-b on this one.  If the filter is optional, it will be left
out in 99% of cases.  It sounds like you are optimizing for a rare edge
case and sacrificing ease of use and better quality in 99% of cases for
it...

Diego
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