On Tue, 27 Jan 2015 10:09:58 -0700 Bradley O'Hearne <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > On Jan 26, 2015, at 11:26 PM, wm4 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > No, no. As I said before, there are barely any developers on this list. > > I don’t believe that — as I’ve spoken with them in the past, Did you really? Again, I see no real proof of this. You maybe talked to _some_ FFmpeg devs (and not even main FFmpeg devs), just like _some_ FFmpeg devs sometimes write here. It's a bit regrettable that libav-user turned into a place where confused users are parked and forgotten. But there's a reason for this. The most common threads here can be put into one of 3 categories: 1. Users with a low level of understanding of low level multimedia concepts, and properly replying to them would be the same effort as holding a multimedia class. 2. Users which want to do something awfully special, and solving the problem for them would be a lot of work (many of these could also go in category 1 or 3). 3. Users which could easily solve their problem by actually reading the documentation or doing a little bit research themselves (they should go to stackoverflow instead - the gamification system makes other people help for free, even if it's tedious as hell). So in general, it's just tedious and unsatisfying to be active on this list, and people better go doing things that are more productive. Nobody here is paid to give support. > but if this is true, there’s a major problem right there: complete disconnect with your user-base. If you don’t know the needs of API consumers and where the API is showing to be cumbersome or in need of revision or improvement, then you are missing some very valuable input. This is true, but it doesn't falsify my argument: if you actually want to change anything, you need to put some effort into it, rather than waiting that others do. Also, it's not really a disconnect with the user-base. It's a disconnect between libav-user and users who never get close to the project. "Good" users contribute patches and do get a say in the development process. > > I guess people don't like giving tech support (especially for free). > > All the more reason FFmpeg needs to be well documented and intuitive. Where did anyone disagree with this? Again, I haven't seen a single patch from you, not even something as trivial as adding a small bit of documentation. This makes the way you represent yourself look very questionable. > > As for contributing... I haven't seen a single FFmpeg patch from you, > > > Well, you're not contributing in the first place. Your suggested wrapper > > If you spent a little less time trying to personally impugn people and listen > to what they are actually saying, y And here is where I give up and stop wasting my own time. _______________________________________________ Libav-user mailing list [email protected] http://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/libav-user
