I'm sorry but this could easily refer to open source libraries, and
commonly does. I will update my blog post again once source code is
available, which should hopefully be when the app is released next week.

NK

On Oct 11, 2012 6:49 PM, "Ryan Gallagher" <r...@rjgallagher.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > On 10/11/2012 18:26 PM, Nadim Kobeissi wrote:
> > I sincerely apologize if my post is jumping the gun a bit, but aside
> > from reassurances in private press conferences, Silent Circle hasn't
> > made any statement that supports their releasing their code as open
> > source. In fact, they have been very ambiguous on this issue prior to
> > their alleged private statements yesterday and today.
>
> Hmm. It says on the SC website that it will use "Open Source
Peer-Reviewed Encryption," "Peer Reviewed Encryption and Hashing
Algorithms," and also says "we believe in open source." Is that very
ambiguous?
>
> ________________________________
> > Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 18:26:28 -0400
> > From: na...@nadim.cc
>
> > To: liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu
> > Subject: Re: [liberationtech] Silent Circle to publish source code?
> >
> > On 10/11/2012 5:51 PM, Ryan Gallagher wrote:
> > > To Nadim: I'm interested to know, did you contact anyone at SC before
> > > writing your blog post? Seems to me you arrived at your rather
scathing
> > > conclusion largely on the basis of an assumption. A sort of shoot
first,
> > > ask questions later approach. It actually says on the SC website that
SC
> > > will use "Open Source Peer-Reviewed Encryption." It also says,
> > > unambiguously, "/We believe in open source/."
> >
> > It's almost impossible to develop the software Silent Circle is
> > attempting to develop without using at least one open source library -
> > this is in fact accentuated in my blog post.
> > I sincerely apologize if my post is jumping the gun a bit, but aside
> > from reassurances in private press conferences, Silent Circle hasn't
> > made any statement that supports their releasing their code as open
> > source. In fact, they have been very ambiguous on this issue prior to
> > their alleged private statements yesterday and today.
> >
> > I will update my blog post the moment they announce that Silent Circle
> > will be open source. I don't mean to "shoot first, ask questions later,"
> > but rather highlight serious potential dangers.
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
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> > >> From: compa...@stanford.edu
> > >> Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 12:48:03 -0700
> > >> To: liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu
> > >> Subject: Re: [liberationtech] Silent Circle to publish source code?
> > >>
> > >> We both received the same messages from Ryan Gallagher and Dan
Gillmor:
> > >>
> > >> @rj_gallagher: @kaepora FYI I met with SC's CEO today for piece I'm
> > >> doing + he told me they'll be making everything open source.
> > >>
> > >> That's why I added the question mark, in case someone on the list
knew
> > >> anymore (for example, when -- what date? -- do they plan to publish
> > >> the code).
> > >>
> > >> I've contacted @Silent_Circle via Twitter and invited them on to
> > >> Liberationtech. If anyone knows how to reach someone on the team
> > >> directly, please let me know.
> > >>
> > >> It'd be nice to send them a personal invitation, so we can talk to
the
> > >> team directly rather than have a secondhand conversation.
> > >>
> > >> Best,
> > >> Yosem
> > >>
> > >> On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 12:35 PM, Nadim Kobeissi <na...@nadim.cc>
wrote:
> > >> > It would have been much nicer to create this thread based on real
source
> > >> > code, instead of a tweet based on word of mouth. We'll see.
> > >> >
> > >> > NK
> > >> >
> > >> > On 10/11/2012 3:27 PM, Yosem Companys wrote:
> > >> >> Dan Gillmor @dangillmor: @kaepora Phil Zimmerman told me yesterday
> > >> >> that Silent Circle (contrary to what you say in your post) will
> > >> >> publish source code.
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