On 31.10.2012 02:51, StealthMonger wrote:
... for example, [money] can be used to pay taxes.

Taxation is a threat against which a liberated individual has to
defend itself.

So you believe that we should provide nothing as a society, on behalf of all, that their should be no public goods, and that even such things as education, child care, health care, housing, scientific research, art and cultural production and transportation infrastructure should all be private, compete for revenue, and only available to those who can pay.

You also must believe that things like public oversight over the environment, human rights and even public safety should be undertaken by private organizations, competing for revenues.

Not that I want to argue about any of these things with you, just want to spell out what your comment really means for the others on the list, since I suspect that many would not share this opinion.

I certainly don't.



... the State is clearly unsatisfactory for modern publics as a
result of the fact that static territorial forms are increasingly
ineffective and inappropriate structures to serve global,
distributed communities.

Agreed.

However we can not replace the state until we replace the socially necessary functions that it performs. This is the hard part for some to grasp.


Thus, Bitcoin's innovation in terms of creating a networked form of
commodity money is not useful in creating networked forms of public
money, ...

Yes, Bitcoin liberates trade from "public" extortion ("taxation").

The point is that no, it doesn't. It can not, because it can not perform the functions that the money issued by the state currently performs, and to the degree that many of the functions are socially necessary and we have no established and actually-existing alternative means of performing such functions, the state remains unchallenged.

Bitcoin is useful and interesting, but it is not in any way a threat to the State. Not even a little tiny bit. Bitcoin is specie, noteworthy because it's digital, but politically and economically no more threatening than gold, cash or cocaine, simply easier to store and transfer.

Best,

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Dmytri Kleiner
Venture Communist
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