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On Jan 24, 2013, at 3:27 PM, Brian Conley <[email protected]> wrote: > Aha interesting so the speculation is that GFW tech is being exported to Cuba > Zimbabwe and Belarus? What is the evidence?? > > On Jan 23, 2013 11:25 PM, "pacificboy" <[email protected]> wrote: > Brian > sorry for the poor typo just typing fast on iphone will have errors. i am > latino but born in the States. To answer you question according to reporters > without borders, "suspects that regimes such as Cuba, Zimbabwe and Belarus > have obtained surveillance technology from the People's Republic of China" > from report entitled "Going online in Cuba: Internet under surveillance dated > 2006. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jan 24, 2013, at 3:13 PM, Brian Conley <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Ben says "imports" Ben do you mean china gets their tech from other >> countries (imports) or sends their tech TO other countries (exports) >> >> B >> >> PS if another language is easier for you please use it! Si un otra lengua >> yes mejor para tu, por favor usarlo! Lo siento mi espanol es muy mal, pero >> por que su nombre esta arroyo yo creo habla espanol. >> >> On Jan 23, 2013 10:17 PM, "pacificboy" <[email protected]> wrote: >> In the news it has been mentioned and recently the authorizes came to my >> friends work place and order them to stop using vpn at their offices. Also >> if you google on you tube vpn illegal in china you see videos discussing >> this issue. example illegal vpn china weekly hagout dated one month ago by >> fons tuinstra or chinese security cracks down on VPN. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Jan 24, 2013, at 1:40 PM, "Eric S Johnson" <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Bert raises an interesting question―where cybercensorship technology comes >>> from. >>> >>> >>> >>> We know Huawei and/or ZTE make routers and switches to compete with Cisco, >>> and almost by definition, that’s the level on which cybercensorship takes >>> place. But I know of no cases where “the Chinese have exported the Great >>> Firewall.” I’ve been to almost all of the major cybercensoring countries of >>> the world, and their systems all seem to differ substantially enough from >>> the Chinese one (and/or we have some information about how their >>> cybercensorship works and/or where it came from). Not to mention that >>> building a cybercensorship system isn’t really terribly complicated. >>> >>> Does anyone have any evidence that “the Chinese are >>> exporting the [hardware or software behind the] GFW” (beyond hearsay, >>> supposition, unfounded allegations, etc.)? (I’m not talking about the >>> reports of planned re-export of US communications equipment to IR.) >>> >>> >>> >>> Cybersurveillance … that’s a different ball (or even kettle) of wax. (For >>> instance, we do have a lot of evidence of the export of Russian >>> cybersurveillance systems.) >>> >>> >>> >>> Thoughts? >>> >>> >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> Eric >>> >>> PGP >>> >>> >>> >>> From: [email protected] >>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bert Arroyo >>> Sent: 24 January 2013 12.00 >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: [liberationtech] VPN now illegal in China >>> >>> >>> >>> Most of the discussion ion the Libtech forum, if I may states, forgot one >>> important thing, China imports its tech to other countries that censor >>> their citizen by using Chinese censorship software and their infamous Great >>> Firewall. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password at: >>> https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech >> >> -- >> Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password at: >> https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech >> -- >> Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password at: >> https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech > > -- > Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password at: > https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech > -- > Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password at: > https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech
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