Hi Chris, et al., On 13-03-10, at 19:41 , Chris R Albon <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hey Louis, > > Others have done a good job making suggestions, particularly Jesse regarding > the issues around SMS. Not to pile on but FrontlineSMS has published a guide > on concerns around SMS. Given your focus on low tech options, it might be of > interest. Indeed, it is, and even more so now that you directly pointed me to it. I had originally posted b/c I knew about Telerivet and liked the company, tech., and model. I had done some research on low-tech and communication systems (LTCS?) but I really appreciate your intervention here. It's useful. I particularly like the section in your About page: "We believe in giving people ownership of the tools they need to change their world for the better. Our textable \o/ logo represents a person with their arms outstretched – a manifestation of our mission to empower people to use their own ingenuity to craft solutions and create positive change in their own communities using mobile technology." Quite. The nice & good thing about open source is that it can do what your copy states: empower. The more difficult point, as you probably know, is moving people to the realization that, yes, they can indeed do X with these tools—perhaps the major step toward any degree of empowerment. > > Link: http://www.frontlinesms.com/user-resources/user-guide-data-integrity/ > > I am the Director of Governance Project at FrontlineSMS. > > Cheers! > > Chris R. Albon > ChrisRAlbon.com Thanks Louis (Former Community Manager, OpenOffice.org, now on PMC for Apache OpenOffice.) > On Sunday, March 10, 2013 at 5:25 PM, Jesse Young wrote: > >> Hi Louis, >> >> Telerivet is based on SMS, and while we do our best to transmit and store >> messages securely, it isn't intended to be used as a highly-secure messaging >> app. If you are looking for guaranteed end-to-end privacy, anything based on >> SMS is not a great option because the mobile networks could see your >> messages. Also, with Telerivet, messages are transmitted and stored on >> Telerivet's servers, and our code is closed-source. >> >> However, in situations where end-users don't have internet access (or >> installing an app on each phone isn't feasible), and where you don't need >> end-to-end cryptographic privacy guarantees, Telerivet may be a good option. >> >> (I'm the lead developer of Telerivet) >> >> -Jesse >> >> On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 1:54 PM, Louis Suárez-Potts <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Sorry about the top post, but have you looked at Telerivet? >>> <http://www.telerivet.com> It's active most in East Africa but the founders >>> and company are located… near Stanford, California. >>> >>> Stackoverflow has a good summary and discussion: >>> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/11291196/android-as-an-sms-gateway-for-integration-with-web-application >>> >>> -louis >>> >>> >>> On 13-03-10, at 12:29 , Nathan of Guardian <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> > On 03/09/2013 04:17 PM, Alex Comninos wrote: >>> >> 1> Request opinions on the security of WhatsApp and Viber (I understand >>> >> the >>> >> security of the previous has been discussed extensively on Libtech) >>> > >>> > They have reasonable network security from the app to the server (basic >>> > HTTPS / SSL), but NOT end-to-end security between you and the person you >>> > are communicating with. It is also unclear how well they validate their >>> > server's SSL certificate, so it might be possible for that traffic to be >>> > broken by a man-in-the-middle attack. >>> > >>> > Storage of message data locally on the device is in a relatively >>> > standard manner with all/most messages being logged by default, meaning >>> > it your message history can be easily extracted if the device is >>> > physically compromised, and possibly also by malware on the device >>> > (especially in the case of a rooted Android device). >>> > >>> >> 2> Request suggestions on secure mobile messaging apps. These apps s >>> >> hould >>> >> not just run on Android and iPhone devices, but should also run on the >>> >> most >>> >> basic and cheapest of internet enabled phones (feature phones or dumb >>> >> internet enabled phones, particularly Nokia and older versions of >>> >> Symbian). >>> >> These apps must also be free and easy to use. >>> > >>> > Security on older Nokia and Symbian phones is a tricky subject, >>> > especially when you want interoperable security with Android and iPhone. >>> > >>> > There were some Java/J2ME "crypto SMS" implementations around in the >>> > past, but these have not been maintained. There definitely isn't >>> > something interoperable with open-standards like Off-the-Record >>> > Encryption, as far as I know. Based on some work towards a Blackberry >>> > OTR app, it seems like the necessary Java libraries for strong >>> > cryptography on J2ME >>> > >>> > The best that I can offer is Gibberbot, our app for Android, that can >>> > work just fine on really, really cheap Android phones (<$50 USD), and >>> > also works with ChatSecure on iPhone, and Pidgin desktop chat on >>> > Windows, Linux, and Adium on Mac. It also can work on slower networks >>> > like EDGE. >>> > >>> > https://guardianproject.info/howto/chatsecurely/ >>> > >>> > Best of luck finding a solution that address all of your needs, and let >>> > us know how it goes. I am sorry we can't provide better support for >>> > these more limited devices. >>> > >>> > Best, >>> > Nathan >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > -- >>> > Too many emails? 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