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Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2013 16:53:32 +0200 From: Måns Nilsson <[email protected]> To: Christopher Morrow <[email protected]> Cc: NANOG list <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Are undersea cables tapped before they get to ISP's? [was Re: Security over SONET/SDH] User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Subject: Re: Are undersea cables tapped before they get to ISP's? [was Re: Security over SONET/SDH] Date: Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 10:38:30AM -0400 Quoting Christopher Morrow ([email protected]): > > It's potentially a lot simpler than that: > > > > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Ivy_Bells> > > this involved, I think, just intuiting signals from the nearfield > effects of the cable, no? 'drop a large sensor ontop-of/next-to the > cable, win!' IVY BELLS (USN is / was an ALL-CAPS org, right?) was a copper era project, and it did use EMI tapping (TEMPEST) to get to the traffic without tampering with the cable. Having gotten that cleared, I'd argue that if you're on speaking terms with the cable operator, it is much easier to use a full-spectrum monitor port on the WDM system. -- Måns Nilsson primary/secondary/besserwisser/machina MN-1334-RIPE +46 705 989668 Your CHEEKS sit like twin NECTARINES above a MOUTH that knows no BOUNDS -- ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Eugen* Leitl <a href="http://leitl.org">leitl</a> http://leitl.org ______________________________________________________________ ICBM: 48.07100, 11.36820 http://ativel.com http://postbiota.org AC894EC5: 38A5 5F46 A4FF 59B8 336B 47EE F46E 3489 AC89 4EC5 -- Too many emails? Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at [email protected] or changing your settings at https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech
