It was also made rather clear in June that Silent Circle integrates
licensed libraries into their code. This means unless they planned from
day one to be clean and modular -- which is, hey, what every one of us does
in startup mode under siege from security threats, market pressures,
community flame wars, and dev ADHD amiright? -- they have a suck process
grooming and combing through code before releasing it above and beyond "is
it pretty?" one might speculate. While still under pressure from {see list
above}.
Problem with mixed licensing. Seen it before. You probably have too.
SN
On Sep 1, 2013 3:06 PM, "Griffin Boyce" <[email protected]> wrote:
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> Douglas Lucas wrote:
> > Periodic reminder that despite promises and people's positive emotional
> > investments in Phil Zimmerman, Silent Circle is still not open source.
> >
> > We need an IsHemlisOpenSourceYet.com
>
> I think that this is the most difficult balancing act that anyone has
> as a developer. If you offer open-source software, the very act of
> being more transparent directly impacts your bottom line. And not every
> side-effect is a positive one.
>
> So from a business perspective, I can respect that both Silent Circle
> and Hemlis have made the decision not to offer their full source. But I
> am also in a position to choose -- I choose not to support Silent Circle
> -or- Hemlis and to openly caution people about the risks of using
> closed-source communication software. There's too much opportunity to
> fail quietly (silently, even), either through bad code or outside
> pressure or various legal quandries or greed. Too many times people
> have put their faith into something that is closed-source and
> for-profit, only to have unforeseen security problems crop up later.
>
> But it's a balancing act - perhaps particularly if you're a service.
> If you open-source all of your code, someone could create a competing
> service. If a company is transparent about receiving a subpoena for
> customer data, they run the risk of users leaving. It's easy to say "no
> big deal" when it's not your rent money. But on balance, I would much
> rather support organizations who are willing to take that risk and put
> faith in their users. Silent Circle is clearly not willing to give a
> potential user like me the benefit of the doubt. So while I like the
> idea of us all using cypherpunk walkie-talkies, I'd rather code my own
> solution than give my money and my voice to Silent Circle. Again, it
> has nothing to do with them as people, and everything to do with their
> business practices.
>
> I don't come at this discussion lightly. I use closed-source software
> every day. I've built stuff that uses Twilio, which is a closed-source
> communications API. Other people feel differently about this topic and
> that is Okay.
>
> ~Griffin
>
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> "Cypherpunks write code not flame wars." --Jurre van Bergen
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