Or if for example, they shut down their business, they could pursue them with charges. (*cough* Lavabit *cough*).
heh. On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 10:11 AM, R. Jason Cronk <r...@privacymaverick.com>wrote: > I think if they resigned in a publicly protesting way, then possibly > they could be on the hook. In other words, if they resigned and said "I'm > resigning but I *CAN'T* tell you why" then that could arguably be a signal. > However, if they just resigned and weren't ostentatious about it then it > probable wouldn't be an issue. I really doubt the Lavabit founder will be > prosecuted and if so, it would be an extremely difficult case for the > government to make, not to mention a continuing public relations nightmare. > I'm just saying the prosecutor in the case was pissed and he made > insinuations that closing down Lavabit was tantamount to defying the court > ordered gag. > > Jason Cronk > > > > On 9/12/2013 9:38 AM, Jon Camfield wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Wednesday, September 11, 2013 05:52 PM, R. Jason Cronk wrote: > > Anything which potentially signaled your receipt of an NSL would > be grounds for prosecution under the gag-order. This is what the > prosecutor was alluding to when he signaled that Lavabit's shut > down was tantamount to a violation because his shut down > essentially communicated the fact that he was under a court order > to do something which he couldn't talk about. > > For large companies, I wonder how resignations would count in this? > Could an NSL require, say, the lead cryptographer of an org to /not/ > resign? > > > Making your service secure such that you can't be forced to do this > sort of thing (or such that it would be obvious, say open in > reviewing your open source code) would be the only way to go. > > *R. Jason Cronk, Esq., CIPP/US* /Privacy Engineering Consultant/, > *Enterprivacy Consulting Group* <enterprivacy.com> > > * phone: (828) 4RJCESQ * twitter: @privacymaverick.com * > blog:http://blog.privacymaverick.com > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ > > iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJSMcPsAAoJEKmYlZ/5Jr+LOFEQALGGllWT14o8PIUnWf5ZWZIU > vlJEDgU/fDHBV12SnLM51+dMUrKf50FpLRNFhxoiIJ5s+FXHBAkZfCLzLKfj2tcN > oJn9/Uzcx0+6yjNvC6QM/MBP3aHhYKwDSDjA1YAaIix0twYimQdl7iBjMWXPVS6+ > ECc9KB3q+s/TwgWdG/Nh4L43gBaR0X3C1uooW1j9q0OizCSMTw8dlKUgdbiGAJ6i > zSOzL0swYeMjyqKce6+kVu6NrehQEbOxisM55AQ5CF8E5IyzWXeKZOqbnWyOhp/q > ivyGZPxchLBsSYLpMHEv+duuszwzGGr3dYHucACqzk8USTKMM9hQytfq8exxirfi > mqvKKFhaeD3jOeYUnzfW1y0FVAhn/kt2jOtEy16nnAoYWZiU3JVa7ABy5YsRuyOE > fxz8qOn+Qfrh9DXJYRs77xFobyfUjhC57IxDYjTWuHbY8/wh75t2ZhNOieq4wm8m > sneQ20fShOy5Qe53BjqADagf5PnmZf9GzYtMgfSP3rtvnw2ALvNHUxpYsgh4NnnJ > eKPiLFeKYQIbLvoHiA0a/K6LK+ZDf3Ioo2Qjz3FVEZFOCj17IA7clxjRU7fkkIxr > 0qdnAvKWYCTbutEFzfwh+GSVNOrQZroOO5Pyy1O3j/2uMpzXIHhgNQNKSiN60gDl > dWN+O09ZuKBUqt/dKWgz > =nwpH > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > *R. Jason Cronk, Esq., CIPP/US* > *Privacy Engineering Consultant*, *Enterprivacy Consulting > Group*<http://enterprivacy.com> > > - phone: (828) 4RJCESQ > - twitter: @privacymaverick.com > - blog: http://blog.privacymaverick.com > > > -- > Liberationtech is public & archives are searchable on Google. Violations > of list guidelines will get you moderated: > https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech. > Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at > compa...@stanford.edu. > -- Shava Nerad shav...@gmail.com
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