-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Besides being wrong, this is truly offensive. Rise-Up is a remarkable collective with outstanding service and enormous commitment to principle. More than a decade of that kind of service to the progressive movement in this country. I have no problem saying that we at MF/PL are proud to work with them and many other people in this country are as well. They stand up. They believe in data protection and they make sure data is protected. Their systems run consistently and reliably.
I know this for a fact. You don't know anything about them! You have a political disagreement with left-wing politics. That's fine. But to insult, denigrate and make fun of people's beliefs -- that's not fine at all! And to speculate that, because someone believes the society is unjust and should be changed, they would allow incompetent people to work with their system!!! That would mean that no organization with a belief in anything could be trusted. Alfredo > > Second, the unusual stress of ideology in such a service is very > relevant to product's security in this case. When I read RiseUp's > social contract page [1] some time ago, I found the mild > creepiness and passive-aggressiveness quite amusing, but > immediately thought the following: these guys seem pretty > radicalized in whatever hippie ideology they seem to be adepts of. > This probably indicates that in their closed group, they value > ideological loyalty at least as highly as technical expertise. It > means that one of them could be incompetent and still have > administrative access to security-critical systems, or that one of > them could be recruited at some point under a suitable ideological > pretense — compromising the service in either case. > > [1] https://www.riseup.net/en/social-contract > - -- Alfredo López Co-Chair, Leadership Committee May First/People Link https://mayfirst.org My Column on: http://thiscantbehappening.net My Blog http://www.alfredolopez.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJSYcLYAAoJEDWfIjs2VOOXHXsP/381ciaTN4SbUYV9BModDFFY n5zpa8/0LCEO6X4w9wYNy2lSsXj/nrOJ81mmyIbRkogq635wO5Mq8RIRYncasemO A/1YjKAD6/+i6sKT2QlJ4p2fcn67lx/9YDky8dhzk+dV28c2u47HMM46q8fNIA+4 xX5zrcoEurZbntDdP74zHm6TvWYyhPxwrUGWdkQx7LZRwDlb8yHMAttkRexAVLD0 zD8up7lpjtLBLmLVJS94GpXhoA2eE4vkZfTpfOnx8Feae0TsMQ4turp9I4AUeURP uNCxBv7bV7r4Zp/vGZxlMoShoDlzGOPIrmXRiaxEm7A+hRC+7K1lWp4EzhTCj4HH 6uqCLA5H9+n5zPkQTp4twB635mNJQGEs7esgPds/ZGFmrAkgMpnLYcZNsf05oybW L390eS/a3OH8DDvRfPhVjzcXR9gOoARiy+QVYaBcgAPgrXNbcLyOGW/1bCMXm3lo pkm/MxFSDPi+kbf9ctIRc8cSkae0o4fnK3ZFR9wQanrETboyHpajh6cw1/6BhCtg jZfwzgM9v9I1Xn2z6BP/fNiwQTI8zJ4GZZhoeJiV4bxrL2Rdgi5MayELqwEeliMV VMU8TSfQfG/B2mMMhqLdMwlI2slKhlfaOVwqntp+g2jaOUZ5A5lHYD/umXpQAgCQ o+FHwn52smobUHxYRKLF =2O0A -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Liberationtech is public & archives are searchable on Google. Violations of list guidelines will get you moderated: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech. Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at [email protected].
