On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 1:50 PM, Lucas Gonze <[email protected]> wrote: > The shoes left to drop: > > 1) NSA insiders using privileged information for investments. It's hard to > imagine this doesn't happen. >
I doubt it happens at a rate any different across Government and would suspect it happens less due to DSS monitoring. They're much more attuned to credit monitoring, financials, etc. than technical controls. And while you don't suggest it - I think changing the angle of the NSA scope toward blatantly criminal activity actually works against "us".. indeed that's how the NSA executives want to frame it. Because it'll be a lot easier for them to address than the general over-broad abuse that has nothing to do w/ criminal activity. They can "fix" that so-to-speak without really changing their programs. > 2) How precisely do businesses get the NSA and CIA to create competitive > advantages? How do they convince the Trade Representative that they deserve > government intervention on behalf of their shareholders, and how does the > Trade Representative then pass back information? How does one business get > this benefit and not another? > Earlier releases have already suggested trade delegations have worked in that regard (broad trade agreements, offset agreements, etc.) but the comparisons being drawn to State managed business (e.g. PLA model) are where it breaks down. So I'm not sure what additional "shoe" you're looking for here? As a former insider I find it absurd when people say we can just call up on our State espionage arms, the number of people conditioned to break that and work against it in corporate environments is just too high. And then to take it down into product development cycles when we can't secure our shoe laces - further strains credulity. ... So from my perspective the only shoe left to drop is how much monitoring happens of local, State, and Federal politicians and on behalf of whom. THAT is the one we want - that is the one that put it's squarely back into J. Edgar FBI (and then ties the DEA and FBI back into it). The rest is basically noise when it comes to actually effecting change in my view (sad but seems pretty true). -Ali -- Liberationtech is public & archives are searchable on Google. Violations of list guidelines will get you moderated: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech. Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at [email protected].
