Shava Nerad: > Well, that is what the young people have been carefully taught but the > makers and a great many more feel something missing. They are creating > their own tribes and communities because no one left a copy of the social > contract near the remote control, or maybe they clicked through the EULA > too fast?
There is no social contract, no EULA. > If these young people could dream together, on and offline, some hero's > journey -- to change their world reasonably peacefully, fighting dragons, > taking all that world building F&SF they love and putting that modeling to > work IRL? Sounds like a Stalinist/1984 goal. I find your stance puzzling. You seem to be against the current political way, yet you are pushing for a far more totalitarian society. > Why aren't more of us working on that? Us? Who? > We can be academic and clever and analytic. But law and software and > academic papers will not get rid of the USA PATRIOT Act or tame the cycle > of constitutional abuse in Congress and the IC. The Patriot Act is a law. Another law can just erase it. It's quite simple. Just enough people have to care. No need of mysticisms. > We need a popular movement, and today that requires social tools, funds, > will within our networks, and a great deal of the Art of the Possible. > Sausagemaking, my friends. Not just clever language and fine speechifying. This paragraph is precisely that: clever language and fine that thing. We? Who? Nobody need a movement. The movement is there. Or is not. Funds? Than you are a corporation. You need to raise capital to siphon some resources from one side to another. Power is one such resource. > I saw what, a couple/few thousand people in DC on the Capitol lawn a week > ago and the press made us look huge compared to the body count. That's > momentum going by. Spend some time thinking outside the TV box. Many, few, has no meaning. Imposing one's will upon another is plain sh*tty no matter what's the goal. > If privacy's dead, or undead -- shut the damn list down. Liberation's > impossible in a despot's floodlight. Hand Evgeny his Nobel and shut down > the Peace Prizes, or give them all to one big recipient for pacification > efforts against those pesky troublemakers in their misguided efforts in > Eurasia. The Peace Prize, whatever the brand, is just a way to gather some publicity for some war tool. War is a racket, and a good one. But it has to be kept alive. Kindled, if you'd like the amazonian joke. As people do not like war. Like a good fight. Like some gossip. Even lynching a few. Not war. > If privacy's not dead, who will plant the wheat with me? What are our next > steps? Privacy is a concept. It can't be alive, dead, eating, sh*tting, f*ckin, and so on. -- Liberationtech is public & archives are searchable on Google. Violations of list guidelines will get you moderated: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech. Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at [email protected].
