On 20 Nov 2013, at 22:17, Shava Nerad <shav...@gmail.com> wrote: > IANAL, but it seems to me that if the judge does not call the lawyers into > chambers for consultation, there is no period of commentary on sentencing, or > adjustment period.
IAANAL, so you’ll have to explain the significance of what this means? > If the plea is innocent, then the sentence can be appealed through a trial at > a higher court -- however, Hammond opted due to the rather excessively > abusive CFAA law which would have put him away for 35 years for a guilty plea > for ten years. This means he had to live with the judge’s ruling which had > this “side car" of court supervised idiocy tagged on -- which actually made > me immediately think that the judge had read up on Kevin Mitnick's trial and > was trying to sound like he knew something he didn't. Wait, if he read up on Mitnick’s trial and thought he understood…no let’s not go there.. > Couldn’t stick with the ten years, had to piss on it, pardon my crudeness. Don’t follow. Bernard (He who understands follows little) > On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 6:17 AM, Bernard Tyers - ei8fdb <ei8...@ei8fdb.org> > wrote: > It seems a similar stupidly idiotic requirement to the one imposed on Kevin > Mitnick when he was released. > > From memory the requirment on him was that he wasn’t allowed to use > “computers or telephony” equipment. It might have been possible in the early > 2000’s but today? > > IANAL, but would it be worth getting some lawyers to prod this argument > further? “You’re honour, what is defined as cryptography?” At least then (in > the US) there’d be precedent on what is seen as crypto? Or does that already > exist? > > Could be good for an education campaign “Crypto is not the end goal” to spead > the already daily use of cryptography as opposed to the unfortunate view that > “crypto is for turrists and sex fiends”. > > “The government see [online banking] as using cryptography. Everyone uses it.” > > Just a thought… > > > On 16 Nov 2013, at 06:01, Shava Nerad <shav...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > It is so common for judges to be complètement sans clue regarding > > technology -- I'm sure the judge has no idea how pervasive crypto is, > > probably doesn't understand his online banking uses it, and so on. > > > > It's tragic. > > > > bleh. > > > > > > On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 8:36 PM, Yosem Companys <compa...@stanford.edu> > > wrote: > > From: Privarchy Mee <privar...@gmail.com> > > > > Can any of you, most of whom I do not doubt are far more knowledgeable > > about cryptography and how it's conceptualised within the legal > > sphere, offer some insight regarding this? > > > > https://twitter.com/CyMadD0x/status/401443518612512769 > > > > The claim is that Judge Loretta A. Preska, who sentenced Jeremy > > Hammond today, said that for the three years (post-release) that he > > was to spend under supervision, he will not be able to use encryption > > for communication or storage purposes(!) which is practically a legal > > edict to go and build a cabin by Walden Pond. How can this be > > considered anything but cruel and unusual? > > — > > > -------------------------------------- > Bernard / bluboxthief / ei8fdb > > IO91XM / Contact me: me.ei8fdb.org > > > > > -- > Liberationtech is public & archives are searchable on Google. Violations of > list guidelines will get you moderated: > https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech. Unsubscribe, > change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at > compa...@stanford.edu. > > > > -- > > Shava Nerad > shav...@gmail.com > -- > Liberationtech is public & archives are searchable on Google. Violations of > list guidelines will get you moderated: > https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech. Unsubscribe, > change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at > compa...@stanford.edu. -------------------------------------- Bernard / bluboxthief / ei8fdb IO91XM / Contact me: me.ei8fdb.org
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