On 04/26/2014 09:33 PM, Shava Nerad wrote:

Security software isn't like a lot of open source projects. Generally there have to be narrowly controlled commits, well reviewed. Those people are experts who may have a lot of other demands on their time that are far far more monetarily rewarding if the project is un(der)funded. So they are rare altruists, and we often burn out our best.

I am not trying to compare these projects to closed source projects. I am trying to compare them to FOSS hubris.

The idea that we have, that the NGO sector has, that there is inherent virtue in poverty and inherent evil in gaining enough resources to be well resourced for the work available.

We need to get over that aspect of this whole thing. Ideally, in my opinion, we need well organized well resourced groups with less politics and less fashion-driven ideals. I have no problem with free software and open source -- I have worked with a number of projects over the years in various roles. I was the original publicist for FSF.

But if we always are comparing ourselves to closed source projects, then we are not able to own either our own native strengths or the vulnerabilities in our own working culture. We glorify doing more with less to an excess. It's not always appropriate, in extremis, for every project.

Security projects are at a huge disadvantage in an environment of impoverished resources. Any one of you should be able to run that risk analysis. Open or closed, under-resourced projects will be at greater risk. Period.

We should evaluate how the environment around a project -- funding, development, research attention, use in greater communities -- leaves it more or less prone to exploit attention being more likely than community maintenance.

Because at root (pun possibly intended), some of the balance may be coming down to the size of the pool of hackers focused on the code with either intent.

It's a buyer's market out there. I don't make the news. But it does make me ponder.

This seems like a hard problem, to me. Tell me, what is it that I misunderstand?


So in a nutshell you want to focus on the word _insufficient_ in the sentence, "Free software is a necessary but insufficient prerequisite for secure software." If that's the upshot then I understand and agree with your focus.

-Jonathan
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