I don't really agree with your approach. In a standard company process if you want good things then you need good employees and if you want good employees then you need to pay them accordingly.

The open source model is not correct and can just end up with heartbleed or earlyccs.

I don't know exactly the story of TrueCrypt but if the "world" can not fund projects used by a lot of people, then don't be surprised that the dev(s) make mistakes or resign.

And I don't see what's your problem with teams trying to finance their work instead of a bunch of geeks doing wrong crypto on a corner of a table for free.

But indeed the community should get a financing model not influenced by the funders.

Regards,

Aymeric

Le 03/06/2014 22:35, Bill Cox a écrit :
On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Maxim Kammerer <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 9:03 PM, Fabio Pietrosanti (naif)
    <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
    > all of us know that there is some little problem with TrueCrypt
    software
    > project, with some yet unknown understanding of behind the scene
    facts.

    I don't see a problem, I see a logical conclusion to a sequence of
    events. A bunch of Twitter attention whores easily raise a large sum
    of money for yet another useless security audit, whereas the
    apparently lone developer doesn't see a penny of that sum, and
    probably never saw a fraction of that sum during the whole history of
    the project. The developer is pissed, decides that dealing with the
    unwanted attention is not worth his time, and closes the project.


That's the best guess I've read yet, though not nearly as entertaining as the embedded Latin message about the NSA in the farewell message:

http://blog.dntopping.com/truecrypt-three-letter-agency-theory/

I'd swear hat the RealCrypt.org home page was up a couple of days ago (I posted that it was on truecrypt.ch <http://truecrypt.ch>). Now it's gone, and not even remembered in the Wayback Machine, and neither are truecrypt.org <http://truecrypt.org>, truecrypt.com <http://truecrypt.com>, or truecrypt.net <http://truecrypt.net>. The message for truecrypt.org <http://truecrypt.org> is that it was "removed". Spooky.

    > Who is going to takeover TrueCrypt project seriously should be
    an entity
    > (foundation, consortium, coalition, etc) of multiple players
    coming from
    > a different environments from the civil society.

    The project was developing well when it was a one-man team. Did you
    try to contact the guy and offer him at least a similar amount of
    funding to what was gathered for an audit?


Maybe this is just my personal preference, but I think it should be big geek volunteer supported, rather than a funded foundation, and the last thing this project needs is micro-management by committee. Money can mess up everything. For one thing, the funders might want a bunch of new features, when the crypto geeks would rather keep the code simple and secure. If they keep paying you, you kind of have to keep working, but TC has not been updated in 2 years. Do we really need a well funded team working on it? If it's a paying job, you might wind up with some coder(s) who really don't like the project, but do it because that's how they get paid. A ton of FOSS projects wind up with less-than-average talent and code, IMO, because FOSS projects usually don't pay competitively. Do we really want to pay top crypto experts what they're worth? If we're talking > $300K/year, then maybe... I'd rather take my chances with the geeks who simply love crypto too much not to participate.

The truecrypt.ch <http://truecrypt.ch> guys are scaring me as well. They started off sounding great, but instead of vetting the geeks and getting them organized, they're talking about raising money, paying themselves, and using extra cash to paying developers for "continual feature enhancements", an example of which was auto-update! There's also a message about seeing if the ZuluCrypt guys might be interested in selling out. No... I think money and crypto are often a bad mix...

Bill



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