Hey guys, I'm adding myself to this list (I was in class of 2010 (CS) -- wow i'm old...)
Natanael, Jens, very glad to see you raising these concerns. I see the burning of the library as the worst tragedy to befall humanity yet... and that's a big statement made with clear understanding of genocides, epidemics, etc. Sagan has a great telling of the story in Cosmos ep1. They are *exactly* what drove me to make IPFS and Filecoin. (which, funnily, are precisely in that design line of thinking Natanael ;) ) Anyway, please see these links. More discussion later - IPFS: ipfs.io (see the talk at 2x) and http://static.benet.ai/t/ipfs.pdf - Filecoin filecoin.io (see the whitepaper there) And, if you believe in the same things I do, help build this. I'm hiring, so reach out. Juan ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Juan Batiz-Benet <j...@benet.ai> Date: Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 11:59 AM Subject: Re: [liberationtech] economic cost of lost emails. To: Feross Aboukhadijeh <fer...@feross.org> thanks for the heads up!! Adding myself to list. Juan On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 8:17 AM, Feross Aboukhadijeh <fer...@feross.org> wrote: > Whoa, this guy on libtech just described IPFS! I'd give you a shoutout > myself but I'm on mobile only, heading to burning man now. Get on that! > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: *Natanael* <natanae...@gmail.com> > Date: Sunday, August 24, 2014 > Subject: Re: [liberationtech] economic cost of lost emails. > To: liberationtech <liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu> > > > A blockchain of torrent magnet links, of archives of all kinds of data > like everything public that Archive.org holds? > Then you both have it all accessible and you can that verify everybody > sees the same version. > > I've been thinking of a sci-fi story concept of "archivers" collecting and > indexing absolutely everything that matters in a structured append-only > database of sorts (side story, but necessary in my sci-fi world). > Everything would be tagged and sorted and categorized and annotated. It > would be like a P2P Git with more metadata and the ability to search with > all sorts of filters, essentially an open Google/Wolfram Alpha given a > smart enough endpoint, with a bit of IBM Watson. There would be plenty of > separate projects all maintaining their own archives, of which some would > be thoroughly vetted for authencity, and all updates ever would be signed > by the contributors/archivers. > > Kind of Wikipedia actually, but with all sorts of filetypes and a full > semantic web, with the hash chain structure of which Git and Bitcoin share > to prove the history of the data, and digital signatures. > > It would already be possible to build today (it doesn't need any new > exotic algorithms or other inventions), but designing it can be incredibly > hard considering you'd have to figure out a standard way to handle > cross-referencing and annotation across all kinds of filetypes, and that > you need to define a data structure that won't need to be replaced every > few months because of frequently discovered limitations. > > - Sent from my phone > Den 24 aug 2014 21:40 skrev "J.M. Porup" <j...@porup.com>: > >> On Sun, Aug 24, 2014, at 15:19, taltman wrote: >> > I don't know exactly what is meant by "eventuality of digital book >> > burning", but here's my opinion on the nuts and bolts of protecting your >> > data: >> >> I believe we are approaching a Library of Alexandria moment. We have >> created an Information Age in which nothing is secure, and deleting >> unwanted information ("thought crime") is trivial. Furthermore, infotech >> has redistributed power from the people to the government. It would be >> naive to expect this power to go unabused. Totalitarianism is in >> the wind. >> >> If we really want a permanent archive of humanity's work, we >> need to build some kind of distributed Noah's Ark. Archive.org is >> no good (book depositories are the first to go when the book-burning >> starts), and asking the book-burners at the NSA and GCHQ to guard >> our civilization's store of knowledge is laughable on its face. >> >> Something P2P, maybe blockchain-based, might work. Convincing people >> of the reality and urgency of the threat is another matter. >> >> Jens >> >> -- >> J.M. Porup >> www.JMPorup.com >> -- >> Liberationtech is public & archives are searchable on Google. Violations >> of list guidelines will get you moderated: >> https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech. >> Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at >> compa...@stanford.edu. >> >> > > > -- > *Feross* | blog <http://feross.org/> | webtorrent <http://webtorrent.io/> > | studynotes <http://www.apstudynotes.org/> > >
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