-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 On 01/15/2015 04:44 PM, Al Billings wrote: > > So, since you can’t trust any software (so you say) produced in the USA > *** Not "any software": non-free software, and software running on servers subjected to gag orders, as you well know for being a compatriot of the late Lavabit service.
Since when the LiberationTech mailing list discusses non-free software? I thought software freedom and access to the source code was considered a requirement for considering a system secure. As you also well know, there's no way to either escape NSA's tentacles, nor leave the planet. When you're not subjected to forced silence by terrorist laws of the USA, you're subjected to illegal cracking of machines by the FVEY, as revealed by the FBI's "right" to consider any foreign system as a potential target. It's very damageable to think that because the reach of NSA and foes is unlimited, although illegal, we cannot criticize the claims to offer am allegedly secure solution to hundreds of millions of people by merging well-intended and "paladin code" of trusted people with an inherently insecure proprietary system. It's certainly better than nothing at all, but from this to uphold it as an acceptable solution is understating if not dismissing the need to provide technical solutions to effectively thwart global surveillance. Most people don't understand the extent of the compromise and will happily use whatever the experts say is "good enough". There's a social responsibility of technicians towards we, the people, that cannot simply be dismissed as lunacy. I applaud what Moxie has been doing, as it provides better-than-nothing for an immediate need of many. But it's patching a sieve with tape: it will slow down the catastrophe but won't solve the bigger issue. And no, there's no nation on Earth that can solve that problem either: global surveillance knows no border, although legally it should. Global surveillance is totalitarianism "justified" by the conviction the watchers are "the good guys" "defending" "our" "values"; they decided unilaterally that because it's technically feasible, they can do it, regardless of the rule of Law and ethics. Therefore no technical solution alone can remove their power, but what serious technical solutions can do is to remove the support for such power: centralized services, reliance on servers and proprietary software. Cloud providers in the USA know very well the cost of NSA's abuse of power as foreigners prefer using cloud services outside of the Empire's jurisdiction. But that is not enough, as TPP, TTIP and other upcoming legislations crafted in secret by corporate U.S. and transnational interests of the Northern Hemisphere demonstrate, which are leading to, or more precisely aiming at removing national sovereignty everywhere. If we start taking a beaver's dam for a polder, we're not going anywhere. == hk -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQJ8BAEBCgBmBQJUuEBOXxSAAAAAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXRFQ0IyNkIyRTNDNzEyMTc2OUEzNEM4ODU0 ODA2QzM2M0ZDMTg5ODNEAAoJEEgGw2P8GJg9K/4P/iHD+CfwIkq8sTBNVf0tS+gj uAYt5TmZ9jGy0HZ8uuuscUYKSegJpKVji7H/f5Jn9rloCFs7RwL0sq038z6I9nEP 3jDRznGMZL9gSdbu29it4J5wc1gPuyKuxUaIpSA9Qq25vDLyqgkiKkn6phwStwUp 9zbfzUy6rseL0kE5oknLPDmzU5iWs34g9uOJWTdrKNO8hKIAbFKmnB2VgAXCb/P+ 4ugXnWfcaA1eg+1UMmj5G6JmE/mzmsrtVuyovIpqyQX2pCp4aqm6H+1a6DObVu3S wctIon0HTj6axgFKDpbPUpWOAK44y2WTgDh4rE64A/XMWuq1PrmlgA5vUyOfO0bn BaNCSL9ou6/lpqUU/B7ETX3iQAxwGXDljDJ6nwi5NNa69e1YQGAGoVi7X9fQ0TnX MZ5LqL6ToX0euvhMizFAWGuTfBuz16o2DGz9HJQnoyYfPP/tW4O5Zxa2lMJ98xoJ slxbXm8ECKr8gzYx2tuiELazR+2OYn0wIXDKPJgMDzxGGU4+ps2HDP59bV10wBs+ V1jbdiHyfUg7KUovutXLrquwjh6tQEg4YJG7bKmKTGdA5WS93lSvGZTWQ6wsyHfP DJUqmR7UTj4juB446JOgy8sGdVeryDPSnhF66vXALYzxRMPKj9v72eenypxxr/AT FAlUUpvFCcCU/1jnMFU/ =ZFnB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Liberationtech is public & archives are searchable on Google. Violations of list guidelines will get you moderated: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech. Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu.
