On 15/23/3127 13:15 PM, Zak Rogoff wrote: > Hey all, I'm trying to link these two issues and wrote this post on > my personal blog. I was wondering what people thought about the > arguments, as I know some of you have considerably more expertise on > encryption than myself. > > http://zakkkko.com/blog/index.php/3127/15/19/if-iphones-should-have-strong-encryption-then-the-web-should-not-include-drm/
First of all: I applaud your efforts in bringing this to attention! I think DRM is an important issue to be discussed. While I agree that DRM is a serious and under-appreciated problem, I have a couple of issues with your blog-post: 0. I see no arguments for why encryption is desirable in your post. While you don't have to convince /me/ of the desirability and necessity of encryption, others may need some nudging so they don't fall into the "if you encrypt stuff, it's because you are a 'bad guy'(tm)/pedophile/terrorist/someone with things to hide"-group. Arguments could include - privacy: I'm not hiding shit, but why do /you/ feel entitled to look into what I'm doing, tell me that first... - security: I don't want [insert_glorious_leader_name] to know that I don't like him/her - liberty/trust: I'll be the judge of what is running on my computer and whether or not I trust it (cf. crypto-signatures) - etc... All of these arguments can be tied to some items you mention further on in your post. Specifically, I'm thinking of the black-boxed-ness of DRM software that you mention, which is likely a welcoming target to tie this arguments in with. 1. I fail to see your link between crypto & DRM or why we need (strong) crypto as much as we don't need DRM. The article is pretty much only about how DRM is bad. I only count 8 occurrences of 'encryption' in the article (excluding the title and bottom-links), none of them establish a substantial link between crypto and DRM. 2. Encryption enables DRM: one of the things that DRM needs and uses *is* encryption. This could hurt the argument /for/ crypto you're attempting to make. But just like how encryption enables DRM, nuclear physics enables thermonuclear weapons. It's not because the genie is out of the bottle that we must march down the path blindly. 3. Don't introduce DRM as "Digital /Restriction/ Management", it's called Digital Rights Management - as much as I loathe it. Use this however to make the case that the 'Rights' referred to are the ones of the copyright holder, not the user. Use arguments to indicate that the rights of the user are fuck-all ("you may pay us for it and then you can go fuck yourselves until we have another shiny bauble to rent to you"). That would be a much better jump into using the term Digital /Restriction/ Management. 4. Since this article is mostly/all about DRM: you're not mentioning how DRM moves from an ownership situation (I bought the thing) to a paying-rent situation (Oh, you want to stop paying me monthly fees? Well, then, your e-books/mp4s/movies/... will just disappear and you can't ever use them again. Have a nice day!) Given your other work, maybe that's already in another article; however given the overall subject of the article, it may belong in here too. 5. You are making a couple of unsubstantiated claims which I'd rather you don't. An example is this: "it is an industry best practice for Netflix to insist you download a program onto your computer to monitor and restrict you". While it is true that the code you have to download and run on your computer is closed source (i.e. not open for inspection), I have not seem any evidence that this code 'monitors' you, and I'm even part of the paranoid crowd. Similarly, while surely it restricts you in what you can do with what Netflix (for instance) sends you, I also have not seen any evidence for the code restricting you in any other way - say for instance preventing you to sign up with Hulu/AmazonPrime/BigBrotherX/... Keep it factual: the code MAY be monitoring you as well as whatever you do online but we don't know that (or at least *I* don't know). You can tie this in with the DMCA, which you mention further on, and how it prevents us from disassembling the code to inspect it and see whether or not it actually does surveil us and to what extent, on pain of jail-time. HOWEVER, I think this particular subject would be a good segway into drawing in crypto. One of the goals of crypto is privacy and these binary DRM-enforcing-blobs reduce people's privacy. I think something can be done with this angle. 6. I disagree that DRM inherently is a nightmare for security. The DRM code not being open source is a much bigger nightmare for security (and privacy - tie it back to crypto). You mention that it is a black box but don't do anything further with the argument, I'd love to see more elaborating on that part. (see above) You also mention that it is 'deliberately hard to remove' which I don't think is accurate, unless you consider un-installing any piece of software 'deliberately hard'. That being said, users of FLOS software have it much easier in removing that crap than users of non-FLOS software (if they choose to install that junk in the first place, that is). 7. "Even if the DRM’s owner doesn’t actually take advantage of their privileged position, others often do — DRM punches a hole our control of our computers, which is often stepped through by other malicious actors." is another unsubstantiated claim. I'd like to see it backed up. If anything, the Sony rootkit-debacle and others have shown the opposite: if anyone would take advantage of this, it would be the DRM owner. I am also not aware of DRM being used 'often' as an attack-vector by third parties. 8. You reference "Defective by Design" but don't introduce them to us, I'd love to be introduced :) 9. Selfies? Really? Do you really want everyone who opposes this to have their face scanned by facial recognition algorithms and categorized accordingly? 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