There is an academic petition at https://sites.google.com/view/notoimmigrationeo/home --t
On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 6:57 PM, Michael M. J. Fischer <mfisc...@mit.edu> wrote: > both symbolic and substantive moves are needed > > since much of what the new administration is doing is symbolic signaling, we > need to be visible in that space too > > meanwhile substantive actions such as holding meetings in places all > academics and technologists are welcome is important, both physical and > virtual > > > On Jan 27, 2017, at 2:33 PM, Yosem Companys <compa...@stanford.edu> wrote: > > From: Dave Burstein <da...@dslprime.com> > > I raise the question of whether we should respond to the proposed U.S. ban > on nationals of Iran, Iraq, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria, Yemen. > > Scott Aaronson reports one of his MIT students will probably have to leave > if he can't get his visa removed. We all know how many Iranians are > world-class technologists, including in computer science and electrical > engineering. > > I hope many from outside the United States speak up. The issues around Trump > make it hard to be objective here. > > Should we take a stand? > > If so, should it be symbolic or substantive? > > Symbolic actions could include: > > A resolution > Establishing remote hubs for our meetings in Iran and one of the Arabic > speaking countries. ISOC has funded remote hubs. > Outreach in Farsi and Arabic to show that whatever actions the government > takes, the IETF welcomes participation. This could be as simple as Jari > Arkko writing a letter to the editor of the leading newspapers with an > invitation for all to join our work. > > Some might also think that we should move the July 2018 meeting from San > Francisco to a location accessible to more of our members, perhaps to Mexico > or Canada. > ------------ > > As we discuss this, I urge everyone to avoid distracting comments about U.S. > politics. We're not going to change many minds here pro or con the new U.S. > President. > > Instead, let's keep the discussion here to how we should respond to a major > nation refusing visas to so many of our members. > > Dave Burstein > > > -- > Editor, Fast Net News, 5GW News, Net Policy News and DSL Prime > Author with Jennie Bourne DSL (Wiley) and Web Video: Making It Great, > Getting It Noticed (Peachpit) > > -- > Liberationtech is public & archives are searchable on Google. Violations of > list guidelines will get you moderated: > https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech. Unsubscribe, > change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at > compa...@stanford.edu. > > > > -- > Liberationtech is public & archives are searchable on Google. Violations of > list guidelines will get you moderated: > https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech. Unsubscribe, > change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at > compa...@stanford.edu. -- Liberationtech is public & archives are searchable on Google. Violations of list guidelines will get you moderated: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech. Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu.