Poisonous Misinterpretations July 23, 2005 at http://www.AntiWar.com
by Scott Horton of http://www.WeekEndInterviewShow.com "This is not an isolated criminal act we are dealing with, it is an extreme and evil ideology whose roots lie in a perverted and poisonous misinterpretation of the religion of Islam." Tony Blair Why do they hate us? Does Islam, or a "poisonous misinterpretation" of it, create terrorism? Often we're told by politicians that a corrupt version of Islam is the cause of the al-Qaeda movement and its most deadly tactic, suicide terrorism. In his book, Dying to Win: The Strategic Logic of Suicide Terrorism, University of Chicago associate professor of political science Robert A. Pape wrestles with these questions and more. His conclusions surprised even him. On my July 16 radio show he said that after 9/11 he assumed the Koran might contain clues toward understanding what motivates a person to commit a suicide bombing. For his book, however, Pape started with the bombings themselves every documented case between 1980 and 2004 and noticed some suggestive common threads. Foreign occupation, it seems not religion is the core motivating factor behind suicide terrorism. From Hezbollah in Lebanon and Hamas in Gaza and the West Bank to Sikhs in India, from the jihadists of 9/11 to the secular Marxist Tamil Tigers in Sri Lanka for all of these, it is "a nationalistic response." MoreAt http://www.antiwar.com/orig/horton.php?articleid=6720 USA presence in the Persian Gulf helps extremists to recruit for the holy war! Said US Rep Ron Paul (R) in Congress Sept 25, 2001: "The hatred has been suppressed because we are a powerful economic and military force and wield a lot of influence. But this suppressed hatred is now becoming more visible and we as Americans for the most part are not even aware of how this could be. Americans have no animosity toward a people they hardly even know. Instead, our policies have been driven by the commercial interests of a few. And now the innocent suffer" MoreAt http://www.house.gov/paul/congrec/congrec2001/cr092501.htm If someone keeps poking a stick into a hornets nest but then manages to duck out of the way as the hornets swarm upon YOU in defensive retaliation would it make sense to deal ONLY with the hornets? -Terry Liberty Parker http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian VoiceCall 1.512.462.1776 every Sunday 6:30pm (cdt) to ? I host informal disscussion to which all are welcome who want to consider ideas & issues of Liberty & Justice for ALL (aka libertarianism) in Hickory St Grill at 8th & Congress Look for me, MyPicAt http://profiles.yahoo.com/txliberty OnLineAt http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian/chat --- In [email protected], "Kisan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This article was my own. I don't think I suffer from "collective > mindset" as in fact I argue against this strongly in some arguments > in a series of emails: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mukto-mona/message/22015 > > I have read and was quite influenced by arguments from Karl Popper > and also Hayek's Road to Serfdom which highlight this individual > versus collective point. > Particularly Karl Popper's 'The Open Society and it's Enemies' who > traces the rise of totalitarian philosophy from Plato to Nietsche to > Marx and National Socialism is an eyeopener in regarding > collectivist philosophies. > After reading this I could also see the same totalitarian > collectivism clearly in Islam which is an extremely powerful > totalitarianism that threatens individuals rights wherever it gains > power. > > The Islamists kill those intellectuals who speak out against them > particularly those from a Muslim background: > > http://www.mukto-mona.com/Articles/humayun_azad/ > > http://www.thesouthasian.org/archives/000235.html > > http://virtualbangladesh.com/history/rafiqul_islam.html > > Regards, > > Kisan. > --- In [email protected], Fredrik Coulter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > I'm not convinced that Islamophobia is the primary problem. > Rather, I > > see the root problem is the same as that which brought about > slavery, > > National Socialism, Communism, and Democrats. This evils is the > > Collectivist Mindset. This evil changes the focus of attention > from the > > individual to this amophus fiction, the homogeneous group. > > > > Most of the Islam Bashing articles are great examples of this, and > when > > you get into discussions with the people who keep posting these > > articles, you'll find that most of them suffer from this evil to a > > greater extent than the author's whose articles they're posting. > > > > And if there is one identifying characteristic of libertarian > thought, > > it is the focus on the individual, not the collective. > > > > On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 4:39 pm, Kisan wrote: > > > Dear Moderator, > > > > > > I would hope that you might address particular elements of my > > > message and point out how they are Islamo-phobic for the benefit > of > > > myself and readers. > > > > > > Phobia is an irational belief based on no evidence or reality. > > > Please demonstrate how my message fits that bill. > > > > > > Also, my article which had several links substantiating points > made > > > arrived without those links intact. The actual article is here: > > > > > > http://www.vinnomot.com/Kisan/IslamistIdiot.htm > > > > > > with links intact. > > > > > > I don't appreciate being insinuated as a "hate monger" but would > be > > > perhaps willing to accept that label if you could demonstrate it > > > with some logic rather than using your moderator status as a > license > > > to pass hasty judgements and labeling. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Kisan. > > > > > > > Fredrik V. Coulter > > Pragmatic Libertarian > > > > You want freedom?! You can't handle freedom. - United States > Supreme > > Court (with apologies to Col. Nathan R. Jessep) ForumWebSiteAt http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
