--- In [email protected], <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>But one can make a clear and convincing case that US government 
> policy are aiding the terrorists in the following ways:
> 1)undercutting and alienating those Moslems who are inclined, for 
> whatever motiviation, to support the US and oppose the jihadis
> 2)allowing almost unlimited propaganda points to the jihadis, who 
> can paint our actions as exactly in accord with their claims, even 
> when they are not.
> 
> Jeffrey Smith<<
> 
> Yes you are correct.  
> 
> Now lets try and combine a few points in an analysis and see what 
we get if anything.
> 
> 1) Two diametricly opposed world views are in the process of 
clashing.  The view of what is commonly called 'the west' and the 
view of Islam.
> 
> 2) Islam is much more a view based upon faith, religion, and 
intolerance of opposing view points.  It is much more hostile to 
science, technology and progress than its opposite.
> 
> 3) The west relatively more accepting of science, technology and 
progress.  And much more able to match its views with the natural 
world.
> 
> 5) Combine this with Dieus ex Machina's observations on the effect 
of western thought (through the spread of new and better 
ideas/globalism) and you find that such a conflict is going to 
result in the extinction of one of the points of view and would most 
likely leave the victor unable to survive for very long.
> 
> I am sure that I am on to something and that I am leaving 
something out.
> 
> BWS

You are both correct and incorrect.  When you speak of Islam you 
should be speaking of jihadi/fundamentalist type Islam.  Within 
Islamic thought, history and culture there is plenty of room for 
scientific rationalism.  To explain why the modern Islamic politic 
is 'backward' compared to the "West" would require a long 
disquisition, but the basic answer boils down to the fact that the 
religious institutions of Islam have always been linked to and 
identified with government, and have accordingly ossified: rather 
like Catholic Europe ossified in comparison to Protestant Europe in 
the 18th and 19th century, and only caught up by dint of throwing 
out the Catholic institutions (which France did first, and Spain and 
Ireland did last, in our own time).

Jeffrey Smith




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