I am afraid it is going to require a rebuilding of the "party" from the inside 
out. Both parties are unacceptable as they now stand. Sort of like the 
alcoholic who says: "But I only drink on weekends!" In order to do that you 
need to have a political strategy to make it happen at national, state, and 
local levels. But first, before you even have that you need to have serious 
proposals to fix problems. How would you address healthcare, how would you 
address seemingly intractible poverty in certain communities, how would you 
address education: primary and higher, how would you provide for defense 
without walking all over liberty, what would be the role of prisons in a truly 
free society, one can go on...
 
I would also submit that the proposals need to maximize free market approaches, 
but realize that government may need to be crafted to accomplish that move. The 
primary reason is often cited: government is already so thoroughly entrenched 
in so many areas of life that it is hard so say just how much distortion has 
been created over the generations. Example: to oppose any mass transit because 
it involves taxes and government planning can be disingenious when you consider 
the direct and indirect governmental subsidies given the auto industry through 
the various highway bills. If that had not happened, would urban areas have 
created market-based private transit systems decades ago? I tend to think they 
would have. 

If the government had not distorted the market with highway funds and 
subsidized home buying in the suburbs, would we be discussing urban sprawl 
today, probably not. Much of this movement, at the implementation stage, will 
be about untangling a big knot created over time.
 
Greg
 
 
Paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Stop saying the Republicans cut taxes.  It's laughable.  Republicans
have grown government at rates that a Democrat wouldn't dare to even
dream about.  The Republican Party is spending on the credit card, and
waiting to pass the bill onto someone else just like Reagan who
tripled the size of government and spent several generations of
Americans into debt from the cradle to the grave.  

If I have to choose between people stealing my money to pay for social
programs that don't work (Democrats), or people stealing my money to
start unprovoked wars and commit murder to fill their own pockets to
trade blood for oil, I'll choose the first one.

Both of the major parties are disgusting, but if one is more
disgusting and vile than the other, it's most certainly the GOP.



--- In [email protected], Deus Ex Machina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Jeffrey Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > --- In [email protected], Deus Ex Machina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > wrote:
> > > 
> > > and the RP also cut taxes, while the dem would increase taxes. in my
> > > book that makes the RP more palatable, all they need to be coaxed 
> > into
> > > now is to cut spending. the issues with jihado facists is a side 
> > issue.
> > > 
> > > Vic
> > > 
> > > 
> > That's like saying a pedophile needs to be coaxed into celibacy.
> 
> the likely hood of the LP winning enough national votes in my
lifetime is zero.
> 
> so I think a little pragamatism doesnt go astray. I would rather not see
> the dem get back into power. taxation is the principal problem with
> government. without taxation it ceases to exist. at least the RP cut
> taxes. socialists imo are still the biggest scourge on the planet today.
> 
> Vic





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