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NUCLEAR HARDENED U.S. BASE IN ISRAEL TO BE COMPLETED IN FIVE DAYS!!!
(Sorry about earlier post, thought it was three days. By the 31st which is
Wednesday.)
>> From: Richard Moore
>> Date: 08/17/05 08:43:55
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Subject: World War III immanent?
>> Friends,
>> I'm on holiday, without my usual computer resources, and so this
>> posting will be lacking the kind of documentation that I normally try
>> to provide. The stories have been breaking so rapidly however, that I
>> feel I must post something before all hell breaks loose. I'm kind of
>> working from memory. You may want to use Google to track down some of
>> the stories I'm reporting on.
>> Iran is the focus point. Iran has no program to develop nuclear
>> weapons and everyone knows that. The CIA leaked a report that it would
>> take Iran 10 years to develop nuclear weapsns, and the UN inspectors,
>> who have unlimited access, have given Iran a clean report. U.S. claims
>> to the contrary are exactly like the WMD propaganda preceding the
>> invasion of Iraq: pure lies invented to justify an invasion that has
>> entirely different motivations. We all know the motivation: the PNAC
>> agenda; oil as powwer; maintaining control of global finance by London
>> and New York banks.
>> The scenario for World War III is incredibly obvious. There will be no
>> surprise for anyone who has their eyes open. Washington spells it out
>> when they say they are "expecting" multiple simultaneous terrorist
>> attacks in the U.S. very soon. They should know, since they are the
>> ones who will be carrying out the attacks.
>> It is worth noting that no steps are being taken to prevent these
>> "attacks", or to protect the population - instead, the events are
>> simply being "predicted". Doesn't that strike anyone as odd? If there
>> really was a fear of hostile attack, wouldn't there be some kind of
>> attempt at defense? If our intelligence is so good that we "know
>> attacks are coming", then why is there no information about where,
>> who, or how?? Have any of you noticed these obvious glitches in the
>> Matrix??
>> Meanwhile, Cheney has ordered the military to prepare for a nuclear
>> attack on Iran - to be launched as soon as any domestic "terrorist
>> incident" occurs - regardless of whether a connection to Iran exists.
>> How obvious can they get? The world "covert" seems to have little
>> significance any more. They seem to be playing with a more-or-less
>> open hand.
>> We know - from both 9/11 and the London bombings - that "security
>> exercises" are a standard cover for false-flag incidents. On 9/11,
>> serurity exercises were being carried out regarding - surprise,
>> surprise - attacks by hijacked airliners on major American targets! On
>> July 7, in London, exercises were being carried out regarding -
>> surprise, surprise - subway bombings in exactly the same places that
>> were actully bombed! The phenomenon, of exercise turning into
>> false-flag incident, is called "going live". There is little reason to
>> believe that this proven succssful formula will not be used for the
>> launch of WW III.
>> In this current case, it seems there will be more than one
>> simultaneous false-flag incident, and hence more than one "exercise".
>> One of these, evidently, is or was to be down in Charlottsville. A
>> nuclear weapon is to be hijacked off a military ship and then
>> detonated in a populated area. That's the "exercise" and that's also
>> what's likely to happen - unless this particular part of the plan has
>> been thwarted.
>> I've been seeing persistent rumors, becoming gradually more credible,
>> that elements of the military and intelligence services are rebelling
>> against this planned launch of WW III. A woman named "Sorcha" -easily
>> found via Google - claims to have access to "Russian intelligence
>> sources", and has been putting out a series of reports of a major coup
>> in progress - a battle between the neocon faction and loyal Americans
>> in the Pentagon and Langley. I find her stuff "over the top", but you
>> may want to look at it, just to see one view on how deep the rabbit
>> hole may go.
>> It is undeniably true however, that a 4 Star General in the
>> Charlottsville area was fired in the last few days for "sexual
>> misconduct". This is absurd. Even drill sargeants don't get fired for
>> such a trivial offense. It's obviously a cover story. Rumor has it
>> that he found out that the Charllotsville "exercise" was going to "go
>> live" and that he was planning to put a stop to it.
>> It is also undeniably true that all U.S. military leaves have been
>> cancelled beginning in September. And huge stockpiles of heavy weapons
>> systems have been accumulating on military bases. And of course we've
>> known for some time that Israel has been suppled with "bunker buster"
>> bombs so that they can initiate the first attack as a U.S. proxy,
>> providing what we might call "plausbible deniability".
>> These facts are perfectly clear:
>> (1) Iran's leaders are adamant about pursuing their right to pursue an
>> agenda of peaceful nuclear power generation.
>> (2) The U.S. is adamant about using this as a (flimsy) excuse for an
>> attack.
>> (3) China and Russia have supplied Iran with very advanced missile, to
>> protect their investments in Iran.
>> (4) In event of attack, Iran would be likely to launch effective
>> missile strikes on Israel, U.S. forces in Iraq, and U.S. carrier taks
>> forces. In addition, they would be able to sink shipping in such a
way as to disrupt global oil supplies.
>> (5) If Israel is attacked, in the sense of major Tel Aviv casualties,
>> they would be likely to escalate... Syria, Lebanon, perhaps Russia.
>> The overall scenario is very reminiscent of the pre WW I scenario,
>> more than WW II. Iran is like Sarjeavo. (apologies: one of the things
>> I don't have with me is my spell checker.) We are likely to see a
>> series of escalations.
>> China and Russia have been coming together at an amazingly fast rate.
>> Both are very savvy nations, both intelligence-wise and
>> economics-wise. They know they are the real targets of the
>> Anglo-American expansionist designs and they know that they must take
>> a stand sooner or later - or else accept the chains fo domination.
>> China and Russia have been making all sorts of deals in terms of
>> Russian oil for Chinese money, joint military exercises, technology
>> exchanges, etc.
>> The handwriting is on the wall. The ducks are all in a row. I can only
>> add one personal note: I go on holday very infrequently. The last time
>> I was planning to return from Hawaii was 9/11/2001. I was delayed due
>> to surprise events. I am now in Scotland, and planning to return of
>> Aug 23. We'll see.
>> rkm
>> http://cyberjournal.org
>> <untitled-1.2><sg-0.gif>
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(Actually I believe this figure is MUCH HIGHER!! May our beloved commander and
THIEF BURN IN HELL FOR ETERNITY!)
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2005 9:18 AM
Subject: Re: [NV-Discussion] Nearly 9,000 U.S. Troops Dead?
I found this article on TRR news and sent it to a relative who is a combat
veteran. He found it plausible.
on 8/25/05 11:44 AM, Edvaard at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Nearly 9,000 U.S. troops dead?
A NATIONWIDE CALL FOR INFO FROM SURVIVORS.
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Has the Bush administration drastically understated the U.S. military death
count by redefining "death"? The following article suggests that it has, and it
calls for a nationwide campaign to honor deceased service members by naming and
counting them.
According to the article: "...DoD lists currently being very quietly circulated
indicate almost 9,000 [U.S. military] dead"; this far exceeds the "official"
death count of 1,831. How can this be? It's largely because "U.S. Military
Personnel who died in German hospitals or en route to German hospitals have not
previously been counted."
In other words, "death" has been redefined.
WHAT YOU CAN DO RIGHT NOW:
1. If you know (or know of) service members who've died in Bush()'s wars, look
for their names on the full, alphabetized "official" Pentagon death list, at
www.tbrnews.org/Archives/list.htm. IF THEIR NAMES ARE NOT INCLUDED, PLEASE SEND
A REPORT TO: tbrnews (at) hotmail.com. You're also encouraged to notify your
Congress members, your local newspaper, and other interested parties.
( Note that the alphabetized list is updated regularly at tbrnews.org. It
currently includes deaths reported up through early June. )
2. FORWARD THIS WEB PAGE TO ANYONE YOU KNOW WHO MAY KNOW SERVICE MEMBERS WHO'VE
DIED.
3. Forward this web page to veterans' groups, other organizations, responsible
journalists and respectable elected officials.
///////////////////////////
"The Bush Butchers Bill: Officially, 80 US Military Deaths in Iraq() from 1
through 21 May, 2005 Official Total of 1,831 US Dead to date (and rising)"
( THE FOLLOWING TEXT IS FROM www.tbrnews.org/Archives/a1682.htm )
U.S. Military Personnel who died in German hospitals or en route to German
hospitals have not previously been counted. They total about 6,210 as of 1
January, 2005. The ongoing, underreporting of the dead in Iraq, is not
accurate. The DoD is deliberately reducing the figures. A review of many
foreign news sites show that actual deaths are far higher than the newly
reduced ones. Iraqi civilian casualties are never reported but International
Red Cross, Red Crescent and UN figures indicate that as of 1 January 2005, the
numbers are just under 100,000.
by Brian Harring, Domestic Intelligence Reporter
Note: There is excellent reason to believe that the Department of Defense is
deliberately not reporting a significant number of the dead in Iraq. We have
received copies of manifests from the MATS that show far more bodies shipped
into Dover AFP than are reported officially. The educated rumor is that the
actual death toll is in excess of 7,000. Given the officially acknowledged
number of over 15,000 seriously wounded, this elevated death toll is far more
realistic than the current 1,400+ now being officially published. When our
research is complete, and watertight, we will publish the results along with
the sources In addition to the evident falsification of the death rolls, at
least 5,500 American military personnel have deserted, most in Ireland but more
have escaped to Canada and other European countries, none of whom are inclined
to cooperate with vengeful American authorities. (See TBR News of 18 February
for full coverage on the mass desertions) This means that of the 158,000
U.S. military shipped to Iraq, 26,000 either deserted, were killed or
seriously wounded. The DoD lists currently being very quietly circulated
indicate almost 9,000 dead, over 16,000 seriously wounded* (See note below.
This figure is now over 24,000 Ed) and a large number of suicides, forced
hospitalization for ongoing drug usage and sales, murder of Iraqi civilians and
fellow soldiers , rapes, courts martial and so on
I have a copy of the official DoD casualty list. I am alphabetizing it with the
reported date of death following. TBR will post this list in sections and when
this is circulated widely by veteran groups and other concerned sites, if
people who do not see their loved ones names, are requested to inform their
Congressman, their local paper, us and other concerned people as soon as
possible.
The government gets away with these huge lies because they claim, falsely, that
only soldiers actually killed on the ground in Iraq are reported. The dying and
critically wounded are listed as en route to military hospitals outside of the
country and not reported on the daily postings. Anyone who dies just as the
transport takes off from the Baghdad airport is not listed and neither are
those who die in the US military hospitals. Their families are certainly
notified that their son, husband, brother or lover was dead and the bodies, or
what is left of them (refrigeration is very bad in Iraq what with constant
power outages) are shipped home, to Dover AFB. You ought to realize that
President Bush personally ordered that no pictures be taken of the coffined and
flag-draped dead under any circumstances. He claims that this is to comfort the
bereaved relatives but is designed to keep the huge number of arriving bodies
secret. Any civilian, or military personnel, taking pictures will be
jailed at once and prosecuted.
...This listing program is finished so act accordingly. If there is an actual
variance of, say, 10 names, that is acceptable. 50 would indicate sloppiness
and anything over 100 a positive sign of lying. As of June 16, TBR has received
32 new, unlisted names
*The latest on the wounded: Landstuhl Regional Medical Center in Germany, is a
150-bed hospital that's already seen over 24,000 wounded military patients from
Iraq and Afghanistan since the commencement of hostilities . Knight Ridder
Newspapers June 6, 2005 (Note: The Pentagon refuses to publish accurate lists
of any wounded. Ed)
LINK TO FULL, "OFFICIAL" ALPHABETICAL LIST: www.tbrnews.org/Archives/list.htm
(The list is updated regularly.)
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(Many of these posts seem to imply that a DemonRat would be better than a
Repug... Again John Kerry was just as much a BIG GOVERNMENT, pro-war,
anti-gun, pro-zionist SCUMBAG as is Bush Satan boy Jr. We NEED an
anti-GLOBALIST!)
BUSH REGIME ROTTEN TO THE COREBy Bill Gallagher
DETROIT -- A storm of anti-war protests and sentiment is sweeping across the
nation. Finally, reality and truth are trumping President George W. Bush's
lies. Even the perpetual propaganda machine of the corporate media can no
longer manufacture consent for Bush's monstrously bad policies and decisions.
A storm of anti-war protests and sentiment is sweeping While most Americans
work and struggle with lower wages, a sputtering economy and rising gas prices,
Bush still basks in the Texas sun in his long summer of content. He prefers
isolation and deliberate disconnection from the grim evidence of his wholesale
failures.
Cindy Sheehan has left the vigil outside Bush's ranch to care for her ailing
mother. But others are in her place, reminding the world that Bush will never
admit his responsibility for the war in Iraq, its failure and the death of
Sheehan's son Casey and more than 1,800 other Americans.
The Busheviks consider Sheehan's witness to the tragedy of the senseless war as
an irritant, a PR problem that will fade in time. They've used the usual
suspects of right-wing indecency -- Rush Limbaugh, Bill O'Reilly and Sean
Hannity -- to do their dirty work.
Those who question the war must be silenced at best, or at least discredited
and vilified.
The war in Iraq is unwinnable and futile. We can never undo Bush's madness in
starting the war and his sheer incompetence in not planning for its aftermath.
Nor can we stop the insurgency, the spawning of more terrorists and the
instability U.S. military presence has created simply by "staying the course."
No matter how and when we exit Iraq, more chaos and bloodshed will follow. The
country will fragment and Bush's insane experiment in nation-building will
prove a catastrophic failure.
The reasonable move now is to cut our losses, save lives and get the hell out
of Iraq in a hurry. Polls show nearly 60 percent of the American people now
oppose the war and 63 percent want the troops home by next year.
Bush and his war council will never admit error or acknowledge miscalculations.
They will continue to send Americans and Iraqis to their deaths as they
desperately try to cobble together a political cover plan they'll camouflage as
a successful military mission.
Since no one named Bush, Cheney, Rice, Rumsfeld or Rove will die in Iraq, they
figure they can continue the carnage until about this time next summer, when
they'll shift the focus to Iran just in time for the mid-term elections.
Bogged down in Iraq? Just create a new war with a new enemy and our "war
president" will use the occasion to keep the GOP in control of both houses of
Congress.
Iran, a charter member of the "axis of evil," is perfect for the enemy role.
Iran is seeking to develop nuclear materials for power plants, which could
conceivably be used for weapons. The Europeans are working diligently to forge
a diplomatic solution and get Iran to accept international inspections.
But Bush deplores diplomacy, preferring bullying rhetoric and the threat of
force. He horrified the Europeans in his recent remarks about Iran, declaring
"all options are on the table" and saying that "we've used force in the recent
past to secure our country." Bush's reckless rhetoric damages any hope that
moderate Iranians will have any influence at all.
But Karl Rove wants a new war to bolster Republican fortunes. The president's
"brain" would like to concentrate on the next election, but Rove's spending
much of his time trying to avoid federal prison.
If there is any justice left in our nation, Rove and Lewis "Scooter" Libby,
Vice President Dick Cheney's chief of staff, will soon be indicted on felony
charges for their roles in leaking the identity of undercover CIA officer
Valerie Plame.
These scum should be charged with treason, but my best guess is that they will
face counts of obstruction of justice and lying to FBI agents. The trial will
expose the pervasive corruption and ruthlessness of the Bush-Cheney gang, and
spur talk of impeachment.
Sworn testimony will show the Busheviks would do anything to protect the lies
that led to the war in Iraq. We can only hope the grand jury will look deeply
at the motives for outing Valerie Plame and the central roles Bush and Cheney
played in the scheme. They should be named as unindicted co-conspirators.
Two prominent figures in the scandal merit far more public attention than they
have received so far. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and former attorney
general John Ashcroft played critical roles in the despicable plot, and the
grand jury ought to be reviewing all their actions.
Ashcroft took a deep personal interest in the investigation of Rove, his friend
and one-time campaign consultant when he was a senator from Missouri.
Murray Waas in the Village Voice details how Ashcroft at first refused to
recuse himself from the case involving a friend, a clear conflict of interest,
and how troubling that was to professionals in the Justice Department. Then
Ashcroft ordered the FBI to brief him on an interview the agents had with Rove.
Waas reports investigators told Ashcroft they believed Rove "withheld important
information from them during that FBI interview." That's dynamite stuff. A
former senior Justice Department official told Waas, "It would have been a
nightmare scenario if Ashcroft let something slip to an aide or someone else
they had in common with Rove ... and then word got back to Rove or the White
House what investigators were saying about him."
Ashcroft waited five months before he finally recused himself from the Rove
investigation and the White House has never explained what led to his abrupt
departure.
Rep. John Conyers of Michigan, the ranking minority member of the House
Judiciary Committee, has long argued there has been the "appearance of
impropriety" in Ashcroft's handling of the investigation. Conyers wants a
Justice Department investigation.
"The new information that Ashcroft had not only refused to recuse himself over
a period of months, but also was insisting on being personally briefed about a
matter implicating his friend, Karl Rove, represents a stunning ethical breach
that cries out for an immediate investigation by the department's Office of
Professional Responsibility and Inspector General," Conyers urged.
While Ashcroft may have been involved in the cover-up, Condoleezza Rice's
fingerprints are all over the plot to out Valerie Plame to punish her husband,
former ambassador Joseph Wilson, who exposed the hoax that Saddam Hussein was
purchasing enriched uranium from Niger.
Roger Morris, a former National Security Council senior staff member, has done
a masterful job of exposing Rice's treachery in a report in "Counterpunch"
magazine. Morris argues Rice's "pivotal role" in the scandal has been "missed
entirely or deliberately" as the media frenzy focuses on Rove and Libby.
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Morris provides an intricate timeline, detailing the events and showing Rice's
involvement.
"Rice, by both commission and omission, was integral in perpetrating the
original fraud of Niger and then inevitably in the vengeful betrayal of Plame's
identity. None of that spilling of secrets for crass political retribution
could have gone on without her knowledge and approval, and thus complicity,"
Morris writes.
"Little of it could have happened without her participation, if not as a leaker
herself, at least with her direction and with her scripting," Morris writes.
Rice's glib one-liner, "We don't want the smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud,"
scared the hell out of people and became a major propaganda lie in the march to
war. Joe Wilson's expose exposed Rice as a liar.
When the time came to attempt to discredit Wilson for speaking the truth, Rice
was ready. "And when that moment comes, she has the unique authority, and is in
a position, to do the deed. Motive, means, opportunity -- in the classic terms
of prosecution, Rice had them all," Morris writes.
Rice's lies were vital in taking our nation to war, resulting in the death of
Casey Sheehan and, tragically, countless more to come. A recent "Time" magazine
article is entitled "Can Condi Rice Save Iraq?" The quick answer is no, but you
wouldn't know that reading the nauseating, puff-piece profile of the secretary
of state. We learn about her exercise schedule, hairdos named for her, her
refusal to e-mail because it's impersonal, and what a wonderful intellect and
perfectionists she is.
We're informed that Rice's most appealing qualities are "her optimism and
belief in the power of America ideals." Not a word about the Plame affair and
Rice's role.
Rice held an interview last week for reporters and an editor of The New York
Times. Again, no mention of her collusion in peddling Plame's identity.
Will Rice continue to dodge scrutiny?
Rice is a professional sycophant and her public service has been disastrous,
but she's usually given a free pass or promotion, no matter how badly she
screws up. Roger Morris explains why.
"Her manifest failures in the fateful months before 9/11 in meeting the
principal responsibilities of the National Security Adviser -- the sheer
incompetence and shallowness that left so much intelligence uncoordinated, so
much neglected or misunderstood -- should have been enough to have her run from
public office long ago, of course, were it not for her hold on this tragically
flawed president, and her deplorable immunity amid the chronic political
cowardice of both Democrats and the media," according to Morris.
With a record of failure, incompetence and treachery, what are Condi Rice's
future prospects? Why, of course, the Republicans want her to become president.
Note: Last week in this space, I mourned the passing of several classmates,
including Richard Sikora. The news of his demise must have been quite a shock
to him, as he is alive and well, and currently resides in Clinton, N.Y., where
he is an artist and designer. So moved was he by my tribute that he arose like
Lazarus to attend the Bishop Duffy Class of '65 reunion.
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http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2005/08/323291.shtml?discuss
*Beware the Disinfo Agents* 21.Aug.2005 13:00
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facts not faith link <#192523>
some plane-hugger wrote: /"some remain concerned about his [Reynolds']
original position of skepticism that real commercial jets hit the WTC
towers"./
Response: anyone who is NOT skeptical about what really hit the WTC
towers and Pentagon might be a limited-hangout disinfo agent. There is
*no* conclusive evidence to substantiate the lying government's claim
that Boeing 767s hit the towers, or that a 757 hit the Pentagon. There
is, however, plenty of evidence which suggests, if not proves, otherwise.
*More information about the critical review* 25.Aug.2005 15:05
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Anonymous link <#193064>
You can read responses to Hoffman's critical review at this link.
http://www.indybay.org/news/2005/06/1750045.php
*The mythical flight 11* 25.Aug.2005 15:16
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Gerard Holmgren link <#193069>
Whatever hit the North Tower was not even a large passenger jet, let
alone AA 11
http://members.iinet.net.au/~holmgren/planevideos.html
<http://members.iinet.net.au/%7Eholmgren/planevideos.html>
There was no such flight as AA 11 (or AA 77- alleged Pentagon crash ) on
Sept 11 2001.
http://members.iinet.net.au/~holmgren/1177.html
<http://members.iinet.net.au/%7Eholmgren/1177.html>
The passenger lists for AA11, published by the media, purporting to be
official lists are fakes.
http://members.iinet.net.au/~holmgren/fake.html
<http://members.iinet.net.au/%7Eholmgren/fake.html>
The plane which flew UA 175 on Sept 11 (alleged South tower crash) is
still registered as valid in the FAA aircraft registry. So is the plane
which flew UA 93 (alleged PA crash).
Go to the FAA aircraft registry
http://162.58.35.241/acdatabase/acmain.htm
and do an "n number" search for N591UA ( UA 93 on Sept 11) and N612UA
(UA 175 on Sept 11).
Summary article on Sept 11
http://members.iinet.net.au/~holmgren/manufactured.html
<http://members.iinet.net.au/%7Eholmgren/manufactured.html>
Research and documentation collection
http://members.iinet.net.au/~holmgren/truth.html
<http://members.iinet.net.au/%7Eholmgren/truth.html>
*What's problematic about this ?* 25.Aug.2005 16:14
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Gerard Holmgren link <#193078>
dm writes
"yes, i agree that the airplane skepticism is problematic "
This is the object which hit the North tower.
It is not a large passenger jet.
http://members.iinet.net.au/~holmgren/planevideos.html
<http://members.iinet.net.au/%7Eholmgren/planevideos.html>
And as for the loony idea that a 757 hit the pentagon... do we really
have have to go through that rubbish again ?
BTW, "Repost" who started this discussion is actually Mark Rabinowitz
who is a proven liar in his attempts to cover up the evidence from the
Bureau of transportation statistics that there was no such flight as AA
11 (alleged North tower crash) or AA 77 (alleged pentagon crash).
Here is the article in which I brought that information to light.
http://members.iinet.net.au/~holmgren/1177.html
<http://members.iinet.net.au/%7Eholmgren/1177.html>
In the article above, you can see that the Bureau of transportation
statistics (BTS ) logs meticulous details for all *scheduled * domestic
flights - whether completed or not. The only exemptions are
:A flight which is canceled more than 7 days prior to the scheduled
departure date
:Air carriers small enough to account for less than 1% of domestic air
traffic.
The official flight logs from the BTS show no such flights as AA 11 or
AA 77 on Sept 11 2001. Therefore the official records say that these
flights did not exist. When I published this information in Nov 2003,
the BTS showed consciousness of guilt, by immediately shutting down its
database, so that people could not look at the information I had found.
When they reopened the database, they had moved it another address and
not left a forwarding address - hardly normal behavior from a govt dept.
This meant that anyone clicking on the BTS link from my article, to
verify the information would get error 404.
10 months after this , they finally got around to doctoring the
database. However even this has only got them into more of a tangle,
because the official records now show the flights as scheduled, but
never taking off.
By visiting the back ups of the Search pages done in Nov 2003, which are
linked at my article, one can also other changes that they have made,
clearly indicating an attempt to minimize the damage.
And what doesn;t help their cause is the proof that the passenger lists
published by the media, purporting to be official flight manifests for
AA 11 are fakes.
http://members.iinet.net.au/~holmgren/fake.html
<http://members.iinet.net.au/%7Eholmgren/fake.html>
Regardless of what anyone thinks about any other aspect of Sept 11, this
and the BTS records are dynamite information, which any serious S11
skeptic should be keen to promote. Hoffman and Rabinowitz show no such
inclination. On the rare occasions that they mention it at all, they lie
for the govt.
Here is how Rabinowitz lied for the govt in an attempt to throw smoke at
the BTS evidence.
Here is what his website states
http://www.oilempire.us/bogus.html
"An obvious rebuttal to Holmgren's assertion is that since the planes
didn't complete their flights, it might not have been appropriate to
include them in a database of completed flights."
Here, Rabiniowitz resorts to straight out lying. It is not a database of
"completed" flights, something which Rabinowitz knows very well.
Rabinowitz likes to sling around the word "disinformation" but fails to
ever substantiate this allegation in relation to any of his targets.
Disinformation means the deliberate promotion of information known to be
false. Rabinowitz is caught red handed himself in relation to the BTS.
Rabinowitz's lie has also been supported by Jim Hoffman, another
serial"disinformation " caller who is similarly silent when asked to
provide any substance to his allegations, but who is himself a constant
peddler of lies and disinformation for the govt story.
This shouldn't be surprising because Hoffman has been exposed as a spook
with ties to the NSA and dept of Naval Intelligence. Hoffman has also
been caught plagiarizing the work of the very same people against whom
he makes his baseless allegations of disinformation.
In a particularly vicious piece of lying and plagiarism, Hoffman was
caught telling two contradictory stories on the airforce standown
evidence in attempt to play both sides of the argument. On his website,
Hoffman pretends to be a critic of the govt story. To achieve this he
plagiarized a series of research articles from www.tenc.net which prove
that no fighters were scrambled prior to the pentagon being hit.
However, in another article, Hoffman finds it convenient to support the
govt story. he wrote an article supporting an attack by Popular
Mechanics on sept 11.
In this article, Hoffman gives the superficial impression of taking
issue with PM, but if you read carefully, he is actually supporting most
of what they say. During this, Hoffman attacks the idea that no fighters
were scrambled prior to the pentagon hit, agrees with popular mechanics
in supporting the official story, and disguises this agreement by
claiming that PM misrepresents the claims of S11 skeptics. Hoffman goes
on to defame tenc by attributing support for the official story to them
also.
So in one part of Hoffman's website , you can find proof that nothing
was scrambled, fraudulently claimed by Hoffman to be his own work, and
in another part of his website you can find a claim that fighters were
scrambled, falsely attributed to the same people from whom Hoffman
plagiarized his work.
This is the quality of ethics and accuracy we have come to expect from
forked tongue Hoffman and his buddy Rabinowitz.
My compilation of S11 evidence can be found here
http://members.iinet.net.au/~holmgren/truth.html
<http://members.iinet.net.au/%7Eholmgren/truth.html>
A summary article is here
http://members.iinet.net.au/~holmgren/manufactured.html
<http://members.iinet.net.au/%7Eholmgren/manufactured.html>
Anybody who makes vague claims such as "problematic" should be prepared
to back this with facts, sources and logical argument. The simple
statement of an opinion with nothing to back it is weak and contemptible
behavior.
Has dm really thought this through and come to a considered opinion? If
so then he has a responsibility to present the argument. If he refuses
to provide any such argument , we can only assume that he has meekly
allowed himself to be intimidated by the shrill bullying of NSA spook
Hoffman and his quasimodo sidekick Rabinowitz.
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Just heard Joyce Reilly say that the FDA has given a go ahead for ECSTASY to be
used on our troops to supposedly help with depression. What she DIDN'T SAY is
that Israeli MOSSAD PROFIT FROM MANUFACTURING THIS DRUG!! Just as the CIA
makes money off of COCAINE and Heroine, ECSTASY is the profit maker of the
stinking Israeli MOSSAD!!
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PLEASE FORWARD AND POST IMMEDIATELY!
The Los Angeles based hate group, La Voz de Aztlan, has done it again! Many of
you remember them as the group that announced the MS-13 threat to the Minuteman
Project protestors. Later, this same group threatened retaliation against
American citizens in several major US citizens.
We just picked up this latest piece where Aztlan claims that terrorist snipers
are entering the US and that they will or should target Congressman Tom
Tancredo and several members of the media especially radio personalities.
La Voz de Aztlan is not making or carrying these threats from another country.
There are right here in the USA based in Los Angeles.
Americans for Legal Immigration PAC is calling on the media and the government
to expose and address these continuous terrorist statements coming from inside
of the United States from a group that supports a separate nation in the SW US.
Please forward and post this material to bring the proper attention to the
matter. Background and supporting information found at the end of the article.
ALIPAC
www.alipac.us
------------- Article to forward and post-----
Aztlan Separatist Hate Group in LA Threatens Tancredo plus Radio and TV Hosts!
"Highly trained Islamic snipers on their way to the USA"
http://www.alipac.us/article-657-thread-1-0.html
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(What I'd like to know is Jeff Rense's 'real motive' behind pushing stories
from DISINFORMER Tom Heneghen??)
ZIONIST(Illuminazi)MIND CONTROL
The Real Motive Behind 'Dept Of Global Anti-Semitism'
The Department of Anti-Semitism, applauded and advised by B'nai B'rith/ADL, is
working to create a worldwide "criticism-free zone" for Jews in the "New World
Order" that is coming. This report ignores whether criticisms of matters Jewish
are true. What must be defended are the sensitivities of the Jewish people!
Continued
The Real Motive Behind 'Dept Of Global Anti-Semitism'
By Rev. Ted
8-25-5
On October 16, 2004 President Bush signed into law the Global Anti-Semitism
Review Act. It establishes a special department within the U.S. State
Department to monitor global anti-Semitism, reporting annually to Congress.
This is more "Hate Crimes" legislation, orchestrated by the international
Jewish religious, educational, and fraternal organization, B'nai B'rith, and
its Anti-Defamation League. The new "Department of Global Anti-Semitism" is
designed to make critics of Israel not only into "anti-Semites" but ultimately
into "domestic terrorists."
But first, what is anti-Semitism? Simple: It is the racist belief that Jews,
because of heredity, are evil, greedy, corrupting, subversive, degenerate, etc.
Hitler believed this. So do the KKK and certain "Christian identity" and white
supremacist groups.
Such dehumanization of Jews is evil, un-Christian, un-American.
On the other hand, if the actions of individual Jews, Jewish institutions,
Jewish religious or secular leaders, or the nation Israel have been evil, then
vehement criticism is not anti-Semitic. It is courageous and laudable.
Certainly, the Biblical prophets, including Christ, engaged in vitriolic
criticism of the sinful nation Israel and its false leaders. No one considers
them anti-Semitic.
TWISTED DEFINITIONS OF "ANTI-SEMITISM"
However, in its "Report on Global Anti-Semitism" and "Global Anti-Semitism
Report," the U.S. State Department ignores the above perspectives. Here is a
list of beliefs or activities the U.S. government now considers anti-Semitic:
1. Any assertion "that the Jewish community controls government, the media,
international business and the financial world" is anti-Semitic.
2. "Strong anti-Israel sentiment" is anti-Semitic.
3. "Virulent criticism" of Israel's leaders, past or present, is anti-Semitic.
According to the State Department, anti-Semitism occurs when a swastika is
portrayed in a cartoon decrying the behavior of a past or present Zionist
leader. Thus, a cartoon that includes a swastika to criticize Ariel Sharon's
brutal 2002 invasion of the West Bank, raining "hell-fire" missiles on hapless
Palestinian men, women and children, is anti-Semitic. Similarly, when the word
"Zionazi" is used to describe Sharon's saturation bombing in Lebanon in 1982
(killing 17,500 innocent refugees), it is also "anti-Semitic."
4. Criticism of the Jewish religion or its religious leaders or literature
(especially the Talmud and Kabbalah) is anti-Semitic.
5. Criticism of the U.S. government and Congress for being under undue
influence by the Jewish-Zionist community (including AIPAC) is anti-Semitic.
6. Criticism of the Jewish-Zionist community for promoting globalism (the "New
World Order") is anti-Semitic.
7. Blaming Jewish leaders and their followers for inciting the Roman
crucifixion of Christ is anti-Semitic.
8. Diminishing the "six million" figure of Holocaust victims is anti-Semitic.
9. Calling Israel a "racist" state is anti-Semitic.
10. Asserting that there exists a "Zionist Conspiracy" is anti-Semitic.
11. Claiming that Jews and their leaders created the Bolshevik Revolution in
Russia is anti-Semitic.
12. Making "derogatory statements about Jewish persons" is anti-Semitic.
13. Denying spiritually disobedient Jews the biblical right to re-occupy
Palestine is anti-Semitic.
14. Alleging that Mossad was behind the 9/11 attack is anti-Semitic.
ANTI-SEMITISM IS A "HATE CRIME"
In the Global Anti-Semitism Report, State Department spokespersons Ambassador
Edward O'Donnell and the head of the office of global anti-Semitism, Ambassador
Michael B. Kozak, defend the State Department's definitions. O'Donnell's
statement that he wants to "end all anti-Semitism and other hate crimes"
reveals that he considers anti-Semitism a hate crime. Presumably, he would like
such a "crime" to be punished.
These State Department reports repeatedly equate "strong, anti-Israel
sentiment" and criticism of matters Jewish with "hate." They give no
recognition to the possibility that such criticism might be sincerely motivated
not by hate but by moral indignation or even love for the Jewish people.
The Report on Global Anti-Semitism repeatedly calls for passage, both
nationally and internationally, of "hate crime" legislation. These laws, the
brainchild of B'nai B'rith/ADL, also have as their ultimate goal making it a
"hate crime" to criticize Jews, matters Jewish, or the state of Israel.
The Report on Global Anti-Semitism reeks with B'nai B'rith/ADL logic,
phraseology, and evidence of their incredible worldwide organizational and
statistic-gathering capacities. It contains thirty-three pages of minute
documentation of "anti-Semitic incidents" in fifty-eight countries of the
world, documentation which only B'nai B'rith/ADL, with its offices in more than
fifty countries, could compile or even be that vitally interested in. Without a
doubt, as with hate laws, this Global Anti-Semitism Review Act is their
creation.
CRITICISM-FREE ZONE FOR JEWS
Thus, the Department of Anti-Semitism, applauded and advised by B'nai
B'rith/ADL, is working to create a worldwide "criticism-free zone" for Jews in
the "New World Order" that is coming. This report ignores whether criticisms of
matters Jewish are true. What must be defended are the sensitivities of the
Jewish people! Consequently, relating such unflattering realities as the
anti-Christian, anti-Gentile contents of the Talmud and Kabbalah, Jewish
origins of bolshevism, Jewish dominance of Hollywood and the media, Jewish
control of Congress through AIPAC, Zionist atrocities and abrasiveness in the
Middle East is anti-Semitic. It is "hate." It does not matter that such facts
can be easily and extensively documented, often from impeccable Jewish sources
such as the Encyclopedia Judaica.
All such anti-Semitism, this report says, is a "scourge," an "intolerable
burden," which "for an increasingly interdependent world must be ended."
On the other hand, according to the U.S. State Department, there does exist
some possibility that "objective criticism" of Israel and its leaders can be
tolerated - that is, just as long as such criticism does not "cross the line"
and become "strong anti-Israel sentiment" and "virulent." Such criticism should
not "demonize" Jews, Jewish religious or political leaders, or the state of
Israel.
However, what may be considered "virulence" or "demonization" by Zionists may
be seen as nothing more than salty truth-telling by critics of Israel.
Hypocritically, the State Department itself is not above "demonizing" strong
critics of Israel in the most "virulent" terms as a "plague" and "scourge" on
mankind!
TURNING "ANTI-SEMITISM" INTO "DOMESTIC TERRORISM"
More- http://rense.com/general67/globa.htm
---------------------------------
Polish Priest Slams 'Jewish Bankers'
August 2005
ihr.org
A Polish priest who was once banned from preaching for anti-Semitic remarks
lashed out at laws made by "Jewish bankers," during celebrations of the 25th
anniversary of the anti-communist Solidarity union. Father Henryk Jankowski,
who
participated in the strikes and for a time was confessor and confidant of
union leader and democracy icon Lech Walesa, made his remarks at a mass that
began the celebrations. "The recommendations of Brussels commissars and
Washington
economic gurus are threatening Poland's identity and sovereignty," he said
from the pulpit. "We are filled with horror when laws are imposed upon us that
are thought up by anti-Catholic Masons, Jewish bankers and hell-born atheistic
socialists."
Remarks made in June of 1995
http://www.jewishsf.com/content/2-0/module/displaystory/story_id/21012/edition_id/20/format/html/displaystory.html
"Poles, bestir yourselves," Jankowski said. "We can no longer tolerate being
governed by people who have not declared whether they come from Moscow or
Israel."
In a statement to the Polish Press Agency on June 14, Jankowski denied that
he was an anti-Semite but reiterated his views.
"The Star of David symbolizes not only the state of Israel but also the
Jewish nation," he said. "Like all other people, the Jews happen to do
unbecoming
things in public life just as they happen to do very noble things indeed. I am
talking about banking and finance circles. Their actions have led to many a
human tragedy.
"Also note the political and public activities in all areas of life," he
said. "All those elements, that satanic greed -- we can say this with no doubt
--
were the cause of communism and of World War II."
++++++++++++++++
"Many rabbis and professionals have told me recently that they fear for their
jobs should they even begin to articulate their doubts about Israeli
policy--much less give explicit support to calls for an end to the occupation."
-- Rabbi Michael Lerner
April 28, 2002 in the Los Angeles Times
======================
Confessions of a Philosopher:
It is not the case that a belief is worthy of respect, or is even interesting
merely because it is widely held, though that it is widely held may give one
food for thought. Of the religions I studied, the one I found least worthy of
intellectual respect was Judaism.
----British Scholar and Philosopher Bryan Magee in 1997
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Subject: [BATR] ARREST WARRANT ISSUED FOR INGRID RIMLAND-ZUNDEL
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 17:17:41 -0600
From: Bob Taft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
ARREST WARRANT ISSUED FOR INGRID RIMLAND-ZUNDEL
Ingrid Rimland-Zundel, 69, of Pigeon Forge, Tennessee
(population 5,083) has been named in an arrest warrant
sworn out in Germany, which reportedly charges her with
Holocaust denial.
Rimland-Zundel is the wife of Ernst Zundel, 66, the
"outcast ufologist" now a prisoner in Mannheim, Germany
and facing trial on the same charge. Zundel was deported
from Canada in early March 2005 after being held for two
years without trial in Toronto's Metro West Detention
Center.
Zundel's case was recently taken over by the
Landgericht, and authorities in Germany set the trial date
for Tuesday, November 8, 2005.
In her most recent communique, Ingrid said she had
planned to visit Germany to support her husband during the
trial but, because of the arrest warrant, this is no
longer possible.
"I should also add that an arrest warrant in Germany
has been sworn out against me, as well, which means that I
will not be able to attend the trial in Germany...Stand by
for a Zundel Holocaust Trial Number 3, to be fought on the
soil of Germany."
Zundel was the defendant in two sensational Holocaust
trials in Canada during the 1980s. Germany has charged
Zundel with 14 counts of violating its laws against
Holocaust denial, based on material Zundel had posted on
his Web site.
"These letters were legal in Canada, where most of
them were written, thanks to the (Canadian) Supreme Court
ruling in 1992 giving Ernst the right to say what he
believes to be the truth," Ingrid wrote, "And they are
legal in the United States, based on the First Amendment
to the (USA's) Constitution. They were NOT written in
Germany, where draconian laws are locked in place that
serve the State of Israel and not the German people."
Ingrid Rimland-Zundel herself is of German ancestry.
She was born in the Ukraine, then part of the old Soviet
Union, in 1936, to a Volksdeutsch (ethnic German) farm
family whose Mennonite ancestors had settled on the
steppes in the Seventeeth Century. Like her husband, she
lived under Hitler's Third Reich during World War II, and
her family fled the Ukraine on the heels of the defeated
Wehrmacht in 1943.
After the war, Ingrid's family lived in Germany for a
couple of years and then emigrated to South America, "to
the rain forests of Paraguay," as she wrote in her Web
site autobiography. Here she married her first husband
and had children.
In 1960, Ingrid emigrated first to Canada and then,
in 1967, to the USA, where she enrolled in college,
eventually earning her Ed.D. degree. She worked in social
services, particularly in Special Education and Migrant
Education for children. She also spent years on "the
rubber-chicken circuit" as an after-dinner speaker to
groups as diverse as the American Association of
University Women, the Federated Women's Club and the
Rotary Club.
Ingrid first met Zundel while a guest on his radio
talk-show. In January 1995, she became the webmaster of
his Zundelsite, which the German authorities have accused
of Holocaust denial.
Zundel's contribution to ufology consists of his two
books, Secret Nazi Polar Expeditions (1978) and Hitler at
the South Pole (1979), in which he discussed UFOs, free
energy, alien technology, ancient cities hidden under the
ice and the possible existence of an Antarctic Reich.
(Many thanks to Ingrid Rimland-Zundel, Zebulon
Pritchard and William Gordon for these news items.)
Best regards,.
Bob Taft
The Taft Ranch
Lander, Wyoming
---------------------------------
Subject: Rush Limbaugh - Babbaloneyan
Rush Limbaugh -
Babbaloneyan
By Ted Lang
c. 2005 All Rights Reserved
8-25-5
I was a bit under the weather this week, so I had to stay
home and rest up. This afforded me the perfect
opportunity to return to those thrilling days of
yesteryear, when the only beacon of truth was the
"Great One - Rush Limbaugh. Pontificating against
the "left", and "liberals", and the "liberal
mainstream media", it was refreshing that such a
talented broadcast natural was on "my side".
I detested the Clinton administration for arms sales to
China, the Grand Staircase-Escalante scam, Waco,
"wagging the dog", and of course, bringing down
and into the gutter the Office of President of the
United States of America. Anyone that would give
Clinton and the Democrats a pass on any of these
might not qualify as a traitor, but in my book,
comes pretty damn close!
But then Bush and his crooked, criminal regime of
war-profiteering Israelites and police state
gangsters came on board, and Limbaugh goes totally
flat in terms of any modicum of factual
justification to shout himself hoarse on a daily
basis in his "Attila the Hun chair" "ensconced
behind his EIB [Excellence in Bombast]" "golden
microphone". He has now become what he previously
accused a Clinton lackey of being: a smear artist,
propagandist and sycophant. Now he's one of them!
Limbaugh got his start in the wonderful world of filthy
American politics by writing two books, both of
which I read and thoroughly enjoyed. Clinton and
the "liberals", the latter leaning heavily towards
Marxism and communism, were indeed what was wrong
with our country. Look at all the deals Clinton
and the Democrats worked out in favor of our
potential communist enemies. Obviously,
"liberalism" was the problem! And Limbaugh
continues to insist that the "lefties" and the
"liberals" are still enemies of America, but now
because they are not showing loyalty towards Bush
and the Israelites that have taken over our entire
national machinery of government.
Limbaugh works for the "Jewish owned and operated"
"liberal mainstream establishment media"; that's
right, the very same MSM he has always criticized
as being overly protective of Clinton. Dare we
bring up how this "liberal media" is now doing so
much more for Bush? Let US count the ways: the
Downing Street Memo; the Air Force One Plame memo;
the AIPAC scandal; the 9-11 involvement of our own
government; and the Cindy Sheehan anti-war
movement.
Limbaugh hates, loathes and despises Sheehan for precisely
the same reasons "liberals" hated him when he
started out. For it was back then, when Limbaugh
first arrived on the political broadcast scene,
that he wasn't as wealthy as he is today, but was
very heavily armed. His weapon - the truth! Where
is that weapon today?!
Cindy Sheehan has it, and she has it big time! Limbaugh
can sense the power that radiates from a simple,
single, solitary citizen. He, in all likelihood,
can empathize with her courage, her conviction,
and her determination and steadfastness. In fact,
while Limbaugh started off with a microphone, an
air-conditioned studio, and a radio station behind
him, all Cindy has to start with is her dead boy
and a roadside ditch. But Cindy started what this
country so badly needed: a real, genuine anti-war
movement!
The reason Limbaugh can't say the truth is because he
cannot say "Jewish", or "Israel", or "Israeli
atrocities", or "Bush lied US into an unnecessary
war". Why does Limbaugh keep harping on the "evil
Muslims" and the "evil Iraqis" when they had
absolutely nothing to do with 9-11? Why doesn't he
do a segment on the five celebrating Israeli
Mossad agents that had traces of explosives in
their van, the ones that Rabbi Chertoff set free
to return to Israel?
Yesterday, Limbaugh chided the MSM by mimicking the likely
queries from reporters, asking what the effect
will be on Republicans as regards some recent
events; i.e. the Pat Robertson debacle. "They
never ask what the effects will be resulting from
current events on the Democrat Party!" Limbaugh
gleefully points out how Hillary is avoiding
getting embroiled in the Sheehan debate - but
isn't this normal for an American presidential
candidate - bob, weave and dodge any and all
crucial issues?
Limbaugh enjoys the fact that the Democrats are splitting
because of the very anti-war movement Sheehan has
launched. "Liberals and their media that are
supporting Sheehan will get hurt!" warns the Great
Babbaloneyan. "Look at how Democrats are divided,"
he cautions. But he also stumbled in the right
direction by mentioning that the Democratic
Party's anti-war movement is growing, which
matches precisely the growing trend in America!
How can anyone see this as a bad thing - a
political party moving in the same direction as
mainstream America? Only factually deprived
alleged intellects like Limbaugh and his fellow
babbaloneyans see this as a problem.
Howard Dean was the Democratic Party's only hope of
unseating Diktator Bush; they blew it to support
Zionist Israel. The anti-war movement now
underway, thanks to courageous Cindy Sheehan, is
by definition, anti-Israel and anti-Zionist. And
that's just fine with me, as it should be for all
true Americans. Zionist "intellects" have
clamored, and obviously affected, their
much-desired "Pearl Harbor for the 21st century"
to anger Americans into invading and brutalizing a
totally innocent Iraq. What America needs now is a
true Babylonian Diaspora of the 21st century!
Ted Lang is a political analyst and freelance writer.
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