It is very important to distinguish between neoconned Christians, many of whom, including Pat Robertson, have become quite bloodthirsty, and Christians who choose to follow the teachings of Jesus Christ rather than George Bush. The neoconned Christians are being exploited, which may eventually backfire on all Christians, a most regrettable result.
For life and liberty, David Macko ----- Original Message ----- From: "Deus Ex Machina" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 7:10 PM Subject: Re: dumb question Re: [Libertarian] Re: Neoconned by Ron Paul > just because you dont agree doesnt mean your view has any relation to > reality. this seems exemplarary of why the LP never gets votes, its > position is a total disconnect from ordinary americans. > > Vic > > > Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> Actually the number of Americans murdered by Christian fundamentalists >> includes each and every single one of the soldiers in Iraq who were >> killed without just cause or valid reason. >> >> And the freedoms in America are under constant attack by the Christian >> fundamentalists, not by Muslim extremists. This will lead to a second >> American revolution and the deaths of millions of Americans. >> >> >> >> --- In [email protected], "Eric Dondero Rittberg" >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > Paul: >> > >> > As much as it pains me to be defending Christians, as a strident >> > Social Darwinist, in their defense: >> > >> > Total Number of Americans murdered by Christian extremists in the >> > last decade or so: >> > >> > 3 - 1 Doctor at an Abortion clinic, 1 person at the Olympic Park in >> > Atlanta (by Eric Rudolph), and Michael Berg the Radio Talk Show Host >> > in Denver. >> > >> > Total Number of Americans murdered by Muslim extremists in the last >> > decade or so: >> > >> > 6 at the World Trade Center in NYC in 1993 >> > >> > 20 at the American Embassies in Kenya and Tanzania >> > >> > 19 Sailors on the USS Cole >> > >> > 27 Soldiers at the Cobar Towers in Saudi Arabia >> > >> > 19 Soldiers in Somalia - Black Hawk Down >> > >> > 3,000 on September 11, 2001 >> > >> > Scattered others at the Various Terrorist Bombings in London, Bali >> > and other Locations. >> > >> > >> > You've got to admit, that's quite a difference? >> > >> > >> > --- In [email protected], "Paul" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > > I've got news for you. The American people are in far more danger >> > > from Christian fundamentalists, than Muslim extremists. I say we >> > > worry about them first and don't waste our time on those in the >> > > middle-east. If we stop sending money, troops, and weapons, and >> > stop >> > > propping up dictatorships, and leave them alone, they really >> > wouldn't >> > > have a reason to attack us, and if some nation did attack us, we >> > > should attack them back, but only those we have actual proof of >> > taking >> > > part in a direct attack. Not those who have attacked others. >> > > >> > > There is no libertarian justification for the invasion of Iraq. >> > > Attacking Iraq for 9/11 is no different than attacking Mexico for >> > > Pearl Harbor. >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > --- In [email protected], Deus Ex Machina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > wrote: >> > > > do you honestly beleive jihado facsist are going to stop even if >> > the US >> > > > did not have an interventionist policy? I dont. until there is a >> > global >> > > > caliphet and we all bow to meca they will not end the current >> > war. >> > > > >> > > > any backing off or weakness will just enbolden them. >> > > > >> > > > Vic >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> > > > > America will continue being a target for as long as we >> > continue our >> > > > > interventionist foreign policy, and take sides in every >> > dispute. That >> > > > > will happen regardless of whether or not we leave Iraq and >> > stop this >> > > > > entirely unconstitutional war in Iraq. >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > --- In [email protected], Deus Ex Machina >> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > > > > > > There is not a single actual libertarian on the face of the >> > > earth who >> > > > > > > supports the war in Iraq without exception. >> > > > > > >> > > > > > is there a single person here who think if the US pulls out >> > of >> > > iraq that >> > > > > > the jihado facsist will stop targeting the US? >> > > > > > >> > > > > > Vic ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back! http://us.click.yahoo.com/VpgUKB/pzNLAA/cUmLAA/KlSolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> ForumWebSiteAt http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
