Yup. Every libertarian wants to free the medical industry. And free people from only government approved medications and medical procedures.
Imagine a world where doctors are so plentiful that they have to make house calls to satisfy their customers. And the doctors are so plentiful that they'll accept barter in lieu of payment. And where even medications are so plentiful and competitively priced to be available to virtually everybody. But as long as government approves only a few doctors, and makes the licensing so expensive that a doctor must price his services so high that most can't afford it, we'll have sick people doing without. And government allows only a few medications and procedures, further pricing people out of healthy lives. PEACE Steven R. Linnabary, Treasurer Franklin County Libertarian Party (614) 891-8841 P.O.Box#115; Blacklick, OH 43004-0115 "When you make peaceful revolution impossible, you make violent revolution inevitable" John F. Kennedy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 11:33 PM Subject: Re: [Libertarian] Re: the truth.... > Ok, but let's talk now about medical care. Should it be free? > Anna > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Paul > To: [email protected] > Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 7:26 PM > Subject: [Libertarian] Re: the truth.... > > > The number of kids they have is irrelevant. If the pay is not what > they are willing to accept, they don't have to accept it. If they > earn enough to support one child and they have 10, perhaps they should > contact an adoption agency. In either case it has absolutely nothing > to do with what their labor is worth. If I own a company and I offer > too little for a job, I won't find any qualified people to fill the > position. If I offer more, I'll be able to pick and choose whom I > want because I'll have an abundant source of candidates. If I find 2 > qualified people to fill a job and one of them has one child and the > other has 10 children, it has nothing to do with the job. I will see > which of them is willing to take what I'm offering. If one will not > because he has 10 kids and he can't support them with the salary I'm > offering, I'll hire the guy who will take what I'm offering. > > There has been no force, coercion, theft, fraud, or harm to anyone in > any way. > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Anna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Yes, but how do you prevent exploitation of the needy ones? One > person may have 10 kids to support, another 1. > > When they apply for the job, the pay offered may be good enough > for a single kid parent, but not the other parent. > > Would you say then the choice of having so many kids means that a > person chooses to be poorer? > > Anna > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Paul > > To: [email protected] > > Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 4:59 PM > > Subject: [Libertarian] Re: the truth.... > > > > > > WE don't decide. THEY do. If they apply for a job and are offered a > > job, they can negotiate with the business what their salary is worth > > based on their skills, education, and experience. If the business > > isn't offering what they want, they don't have to take it. They can > > apply somewhere else. If they accept the offer, they are agreeing > > that this is the value of their labor. > > > > The market and free will determine the value. > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Anna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Mark, some people may need a job, any job and this gives a chance > > for abuse by employers. > > > So my question was, how we decide the values and worth? > > > > > > Anna > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: mark robert > > > To: [email protected] > > > Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 9:07 AM > > > Subject: RE: [Libertarian] Re: the truth.... > > > > > > > > > Ana, > > > > > > > > > > > > You need to go ask the two who are engaged in the business > > > relationship. I assume you will be told "yes". Or save yourself > > > the effort and deduce your answer by observing their actions - if > > > it's not just, why would we be voluntarily doing it? > > > > > > > > > > > > -Mark > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > This is the whole issue: > > > Is the physical work worth more than thinking or doing deals? > > > The same? > > > You claim that the guy who does the thinking deserves to get > > > more. > > > This means that the worker's effort in building the house is > > > worth less than the guy's who did not lift a finger doing the > > > construction job. > > > Is it just? > > > Anna > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > ForumWebSiteAt http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian > > > > > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS E government Libertarian E government strategy > > > Libertarian party E government procurement > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------ > > > YAHOO! 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