its not a law, its a theory. Vic
mark robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Anna, > > > > I think gravity is a universal law. The whole universe reacts to > its influence in ways that are consistently predictable through > mathematical calculations. Would you call a couple hundred > million light years "local"? That's about the size of the Virgo > Galaxy Cluster. It is a cluster precisely because gravity holds > its couple-thousand galaxies together. Think "very large solar > system". > > > > But I'm no surer that that addresses your statements about > gravity than I am sure I understand what you are saying about > existence, mind, consciousness, etc. One of us is very confused - > me, or you and your great big picture: > > ------------- > > Gravity is not a uniform law, except it acts on the whole > universe - > > Gravity only acts on the local level, but "local" means whole > universe - > > There are no universal laws except those that concern mind and > consciousness - > > AND those which protect life - > > There's no universe, so nothing really exists except mind and > consciousness - > > AND incoming information - > > AND fetuses, which are persons - > > AND everything that shares with something else - > > AND Earth, oil, food water, clouds, moisture, sunshine, fruit, > air - > > AND doomed societies - > > AND bad dictionaries. > > ------------ > > Now, give me some non-existent time to make some non-existent > sense out of all that. > > > > -Mark > > > > > > _____ > > > > <What would you prefer to call > it?> > > A property of a graviton to create bonds in neutrino collisions. > A law must be uniform to call it a law. Gravity is not a > constant and acts on a local level only. > By local I mean a formal term meaning a 'closed' universe which > is our world. Since everything is relative, from a point of view > of the outsider, or a non-local position, our reality will seem > totally different, as so the laws. If there are any laws in the > universe they can only concern consciousness which perceives it. > Thus what we call laws, are the laws of mind , as the mental > tools for a creation of reality out of the incoming data as > received by the senses. > A belief that only what one sees with his eyes is true is a > fallacy. It is not the eyes that see anything, it is the mind > reading incoming information and creating it as a 3D structure. > Mind can receive information from plenty of other sources and by > other means, like instant mind to mind communication, which had > been partially proved in physics as the particle entanglement. > Not knowing how consciousness works often leads to such mistakes > as you make by claming that unless a baby is physically OUT, it > is a property of the container and the feeding tube [ in form of > a mother]. > But if we chose such attitude, then all life is parasitic. > Period. You are a parasite regardless if you are inside another > person or not. But it does not have to sound this way if we > change the negative term into a positive, because only then we > can see some sense in what is happening. Instead of a parasitism, > we could use the word SHARING. > In fact, everything that exists shares something with everything > else. You depend on the earth's from oil to food to water to > survive; on clouds to give the moisture, on sun to shine, on > trees to give fruit. You take the air, yet do you make it? > > Since for realizing existence we need consciousness, it is self > evident that the only rule in nature is to protect life as the > manifestation of consciousness. > This ought to be the axiom number one in any social system one > would like to propose. A society which does not protect life but > death is doomed to failure. > The idea that a fetus is not a person because he is inside > another person, creates a prohibition on a place where one must > be in order to be called a person. I also think you need to > rethink your definition of a parasite. Some dictionaries should > do the same as they still represent the narrow materialstic > thinking of the post- Victorian era. Humans of the 21 century > should have more evolved consciousness. And they will one day, I > know it. > But then, where will you be? > > Anna > > > > > > _____ > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > ForumWebSiteAt http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/KlSolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> ForumWebSiteAt http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
