I have missed "even  very late"... abortions in China.  Isn't it barbarian? 
Anna

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Anna 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 6:37 PM
  Subject: Re: [Libertarian] Re: Digest Number 2856


  Morally, yes. At any rate, most women are forced to undergo even abortions in 
China.
  Anna
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Terry L Parker 
    To: [email protected] 
    Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 11:10 AM
    Subject: [Libertarian] Re: Digest Number 2856


    China....   barbaric?  

    -TLP


    --- In [email protected], "Anna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
    >
    > Such societies are considered barbaric by more evolved cultures.  
    Should  libertarian regress  or rather evolve morally? 
    > Anna
    > 
    >   ----- Original Message ----- 
    >   From: Terry L Parker 
    >   To: [email protected] 
    >   Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 11:50 AM
    >   Subject: [Libertarian] Re: Digest Number 2856
    > 
    > 
    >   Infanticide is NOT considered 'murder' in some societies 
    >   even today  :(  
    > 
    >   Google: infanticide
    > 
    >   -Terry Liberty Parker 
    >   http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian 
    > 
    > 
    > 
    >   --- In [email protected], "hrearden_hr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
    >   wrote:
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    >   > 
    >   > 
    >   > Slavery also existed in ancient Rome and colonial America. In 
    >   > colonial America it was illegal to murder a slave. What is your 
    >   > source regarding the murder of a two year old child being a 
    >   > misdemeanor at the founding of the American colonies? 
    >   > 
    >   >                  $
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    >   > 
    >   > 
    >   > 
    >   > --- In [email protected], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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    >   > > Just a datum point: I understand that under British common 
    law, 
    >   > about the  
    >   > > time the North American colonies were founded,  if a mother 
    >   killed 
    >   > her own  
    >   > > child before it was two years of age (postpartum), it was a 
    >   > misdemeanor, not  
    >   > > felony murder.  One would suppose that was so either that 
    was   
    >   > because there was 
    >   > > an implied insanity defense, postpartum depression, etc. or,  
    >   > more probably, 
    >   > > because an infant, unable to speak or behave like a person, 
    was  
    >   > something 
    >   > > less than an legal person.  The natural infant mortality rate 
    >   was  
    >   > so high that 
    >   > > often infants were not named or baptized until it was fairly  
    >   > certain they 
    >   > > would survive, another indication that they were not 
    >   > considered  "real people."  
    >   > > Times have changed, but it is clear that people do not  
    >   inevitably 
    >   > grant 
    >   > > "personhood" to a fetus or even a newborn.  In ancient  Rome, 
    an 
    >   > infant was not a 
    >   > > person until the parents had accepted it as such; they  had a 
    >   > perfect right, 
    >   > > under Roman law, to abandon it by the roadside or  wherever.  
    It 
    >   > was not 
    >   > > self-evident that the infant had the rights of an  adult. 
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