And if we could extend that beyond religion and apply
it to every aspect of the job of an elected official
we could overcome a lot of the problems facing The
People due to ever-increasing government. Good point.
--- mark robert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I appreciate your advice. I am/was pretty "light"
> about the
> incident. I did nothing at the time (but giggle to
> myself), but
> it's kinda been lingering - so I thought I'd just
> throw it out to
> you nice folks. Since the incident was not actually
> a libertarian
> issue, you are correct.
>
>
>
> But your explanation/elaboration brings up a
> separate but related
> issue.
>
>
>
> Prayer alone is not my concern. Prayer in gov IS. A
> gov has no
> free-speech right to promote a religion. Since gov
> is nothing
> more than its employees, then gov PEOPLE have no
> free-speech
> right to promote a religion (at least while on the
> clock). In
> context of retaining your job/employment, you do not
> retain full
> free-speech rights while at work. For example: You
> may have the
> civil right to verbally promote a Ford to a
> potential customer
> while working for Toyota, but the right does not
> extend to your
> job security if the boss hears you.
>
>
>
> -Mark
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> _____
>
>
>
> This is an interesting discussion.
>
> I would take further the suggestion to "lighten up"
> and apply it to everyone out there who is so
> concerned
> about prayer as though it's a dangerous thing.
>
> To me it seems that Libertarians should defend the
> rights of Christians to express our faith as we
> choose
> to the same degree that those of other Faiths are
> allowed.
>
> It's amusing to me that it's the thirtieth reunion
> before you witness such a thing. Apparently some
> are
> returning to the Faith of their youth as they grow
> older; I would take issue with those who suggest
> that
> this demonstrates intellectual immaturity.
>
> Also I'm fascinated that someone was surprised by a
> suggestion of pledging allegiance to the American
> flag
> at a Libertarian function. We who embrace the
> liberty
> available to us as Americans more than any other
> political party should, I think, be more patriotic
> than any others. While they practice such things
> out
> of hypocrisy to present a false image we should be
> able to genuinely appreciate and respect our flag
> and
> what it truly represents to us.
>
> I believe in America. That's why I want to be a
> part
> of the fight to re-secure the blessings of liberty.
> I
> stand when I hear our National Anthem. I'm moved
> emotionally when I see fireworks on the Fourth of
> July
> and imagine how Frances Scott Key must have felt
> peering through the smoke of battle as the first
> light
> of dawn illuminated the flag still waving over that
> fort.
>
> And I'm angered by the sins that have been committed
> against the American People by those we trusted to
> continue our heritage of valour and self-government.
>
> I am a Libertarian beCAUSE I am a patriotic American
> and a Christian, and I won't apologize for being
> either of these three things.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> _____
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been
> removed]
>
>
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