So then their principles are likewise based on Greek philosophy ?

"M.A. Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  geof
    Regarding the Founders, they only way I could buy that their 
morality is not
    based on Judeo Christian principles would be if they had no exposure to
    these philosophies of any kind.  If they had been educated with only Greek
    philosophy and been shielded from all else, and developed the government
    they did, then I would say their morality is based on Greek principles.

I have this partial from Rand's Disciple:

The modern world, including America, is a product of two of these 
periods: of Greco-Roman civilization and of medieval 
Christianity.  So, to enable us to understand America, let us first 
look at the historical evidence from these two periods; let us look 
at their stand on religion and at the practical consequences of this 
stand.  Then we will have no trouble grasping the base and essence of 
the United States.

Ancient Greece was not a religious civilization, not on any of the 
counts I mentioned.  The gods of Mount Olympus were like a race of 
elder brothers to man, mischievous brothers with rather limited 
powers; they were closer to Steven Spielberg's Extra-Terrestrial visitor than
to anything we would call "God." They did not create the universe or 
shape its laws or leave any message of revelations or demand a life 
of sacrifice.  Nor were they taken very seriously by the leading 
voices of the culture, such as Plato and Aristotle.  From start to 
finish, the Greek thinkers recognized no sacred texts, no infallible 
priesthood, no intellectual authority beyond the human mind; they 
allowed no room for faith.  Epistemologically, most were staunch 
individualists who expected each man to grasp the truth by his own 
powers of sensory observation and logical thought.  For details, I 
refer you to Aristotle, the preeminent representative of the Greek spirit.

Metaphysically, as a result, Greece was a secular culture. Men 
generally dismissed or downplayed the supernatural; their energies 
were devoted to the joys and challenges of life.  There was a shadowy 
belief in immortality, but the dominant attitude to it was summed up 
by Homer, who has Achilles declare that he would rather be a slave on 
earth than "bear sway among all the dead that be departed."

The Greek ethics followed from this base.  All the Greek thinkers 
agreed that virtue is egoistic.  The purpose of morality, in their 
view, is to enable a man to achieve his own fulfillment, his own 
happiness, by means of a proper development of his natural 
faculties-above all, of his cognitive faculty, his intellect.   And 
as to the Greek estimate of man-look at the statues of the Greek 
gods, made in the image of human strength, human grace, human beauty; 
and read Aristotle's account of the virtue -- yes, the virtue of pride.

I must note here that in many ways Plato was an exception to the 
general irreligion of the Greeks.  But his ideas were not dominant 
until much later.  When Plato's spirit did take over,
the Greek approach had already died out.  What replaced it was the 
era of Christianity.

Intellectually speaking, the period of the Middle Ages was the exact 
opposite of classical Greece.  Its leading philosophic 
spokesman,  Augustine, held that faith was the basis of man's entire 
mental life.  "I do not know in order to believe," he said, "I 
believe in order to know." In other words, reason is nothing but a 
handmaiden of revelation; it is a mere adjunct of faith, whose task 
is to clarify, as far as possible, the dogmas of religion.  What if a 
dogma cannot be clarified?  So much the better, answered an earlier 
Church father, Tertuilian.  The truly religious man, he said, 
delights in thwarting his reason; that shows his commitment to 
faith.  Thus Tertullian's famous answer, when asked about the dogma 
of God's self-sacrifice on the cross: "Credo quia absurdum" ("I 
believe it because it is absurd").

As to the realm of physical nature, the medievals characteristically 
regarded it as a semi-real haze, a transitory stage in the divine 
plan, and a troublesome one at that, a delusion and a
snare-a delusion because men mistake it for reality, a snare because 
they are tempted by its lures to jeopardize their immortal 
souls.  What tempts them is the prospect of earthly pleasure.

What kind of life, then, does the immortal soul require on 
earth?  Self-denial, asceticism, the resolute shunning of this 
temptation.  But isn't it unfair to ask men to throw away their whole
enjoyment of life?  Augustine's answer is: what else befits creatures 
befouled by original sin, creatures who are, as he put it, crooked 
and sordid, bespotted and ulcerous"?

What were the practical results-in the ancient world, then in the 
medieval of these two opposite approaches to life?

Greece created philosophy, logic, science, mathematics, and a 
magnificent, man-glorifying art; it gave us the base of modern 
civilization in every field; it taught the West how to think.  In 
addition, through its admirers in ancient Rome, which built on the 
Greek intellectual base, Greece indirectly gave us the rule of law 
and the first idea of man's rights (this idea was originated by the 
pagan Stoics).  Politically, the ancients never conceived a society 
of full-fledged individual liberty; no nation achieved that before 
the United States.  But the ancients did lay certain theoretical 
bases for the concept of liberty; and in practice, both in some of 
the Greek city-states and in republican Rome, large numbers of men at 
various times were at least relatively free.

They were incomparably more free than their counterparts ever had 
been in the religious cultures of ancient Egypt and its equivalents.

What were the practical results of the medieval approach? The Dark 
Ages were dark on principle.  Augustine fought against secular 
philosophy, science, art; he regarded all of it as an abomination to 
be swept aside; he cursed science in particular as "the lust of the 
eyes." Unlike many Americans today, who drive to church in their 
Cadillac or tape their favorite reverend on the VCR so as not to 
interrupt their tennis practice, the medievals took religion 
seriously.  They proceeded to create a society that was 
antimaterialistic and anti-intellectual.  I do not have to remind you 
of the lives of the saints, who were the heroes of the period, 
including the men who ate only sheep's gall and ashes, quenched their 
thirst with laundry water, and slept with a rock for their 
pillow.  These were men resolutely defying nature, the body, sex, 
pleasure, all the snares of this life-and they were canonized for it, 
as, by the essence of religion, they should have been.  The economic 
and social results of this kind of value code were inevitable: mass 
stagnation and abject poverty, ignorance and mass illiteracy, waves 
of insanity that swept whole towns, a life expectancy in the 
teens.  "Woe unto ye who laugh now," the Sermon on the Mount had 
said. Well, they were pretty safe on this count.  They had precious 
little to laugh about.

What about freedom in this era?  Study the existence of the feudal 
serf tied for life to his plot of ground, his noble overlord, and the 
all-encompassing decrees of the Church.  Or, if you want an example 
closer to home, jump several centuries forward to the American 
Puritans, who were a medieval remnant transplanted to a virgin 
continent, and who proceeded to establish a theocratic dictatorship 
in colonial Massachusetts.  Such a dictatorship, they
declared, was necessitated by the very nature of their religion.  You 
are owned by God, they explained to any potential dissenter; 
therefore, you are a servant who must act as your Creator, through 
his spokesmen, decrees.  Besides, they said, you are innately 
depraved, so a dictatorship of the elect is necessary to ride herd on 
your vicious impulses.  And, they said, you don't really own your 
property either; wealth, like all values, is a gift from Heaven 
temporarily held in trust, to be controlled, like all else, by the 
elect.  And if all this makes you unhappy, they ended up, so 
what?  You're not supposed to pursue happiness in this life anyway.

There can be no philosophic breach between thought and action.  The 
consequence of the epistemology of religion is the politics of 
tyranny.  If you cannot reach the truth by your own mental powers, 
but must offer obedient faith to a cognitive authority, then you are 
not your own intellectual master; in such a case, you cannot guide 
your behavior by your own judgment, either, but must be submissive in 
action as well.  This is the reason why, historically faith and force 
are always corollaries; each requires the other.

The early Christians did contribute some good ideas to the world, 
ideas that proved important to the cause of future freedom.  I must, 
so to speak, give the angels their due.  In particular, the idea that 
man has value as an individual -- that the individual soul is 
precious -- is essentially a Christian legacy to the West; its first 
appearance was in the form of the idea that every man, despite 
original sin, is made in the image of God (as against the 
pre-Christian notion that a certain group or nation has a monopoly on 
human value, while the rest of mankind are properly slaves or mere 
barbarians).  But notice a crucial-point: this Christian idea, by 
itself, was historically impotent. It did nothing to unshackle the 
serfs or stay the Inquisition or turn the Puritan elders into Thomas 
Jeffersons.  Only when the religious approach lost its power-only 
when the idea of individual value was able to break free from its 
Christian context and become integrated into a rational, secular 
philosophy -- only then did this kind of idea bear practical fruit.

What ended the Middle Ages? My answer is: Thomas Aquinas, who 
introduced Aristotle, and thereby reason, into medieval culture.  In 
the Thirteenth century, for the first time in a millennium, Aquinas 
reasserted in the West the basic pagan approach.  Reason, he said in 
opposition to Augustine, does not rest on faith; it is a 
self-contained, natural faculty, which works on sense 
experience.  Its essential task is not to clarify revelation, but 
rather, as Aristotle had said, to gain knowledge of this world.  Men, 
Aquinas declared forthrightly, must use and obey reason; whatever one 
can prove by reason and logic, he said, is true.  Aquinas himself 
thought that he could prove the existence of God, and he thought that 
faith is valuable as a supplement to reason.  But this did not alter 
the nature of his revolution.  His was the charter of liberty, the 
moral and philosophical sanction, which the West had desperately 
needed.  His message to mankind, after the long ordeal of faith, was 
in effect: "It is all right.  You don't have to stifle your mind 
anymore.  You can think."

The result, in historical short order, was the revolt against the 
authority of the Church, the feudal breakup, the Renaissance. 
Renaissance means 'rebirth', the rebirth of reason and of man's 
concern with this world.  Once again, as in the pagan era, we see 
secular philosophy, natural science, man-glorifying art, and the 
pursuit of earthly happiness.  It was a gradual, tortuous change, 
with each century becoming more worldly than the preceding, from 
Aquinas to the Renaissance to the Age of Reason to the climax and end 
of this development: the eighteenth century, the Age of 
Enlightenment.  This was the age in which America's founding fathers 
were educated and in which they created the United States.

The Enlightenment represented the triumph (for a short while anyway) 
of the pagan Greek, and specifically of the Aristotelian, 
spirit.  Its basic principle was respect for man's intellect and, 
correspondingly, the wholesale dismissal of faith and revelation. 
Reason the Only Oracle of Man, said Ethan Allen of Vermont, who spoke 
for his age in demanding unfettered free thought and in ridiculing 
the primitive contradictions of the Bible.  "While we are under the 
tyranny of Priests," he declared in 1784, "... it ever will be their 
interest, to invalidate the law of nature and reason, in order to 
establish systems incompatible therewith."'

Elihu Palmer, another American of the Enlightenment, was even more 
outspoken.  According to Christianity, he writes, God "is supposed to 
be a fierce, revengeful tyrant, delighting in cruelty, punishing his 
creatures for the very sins which he causes them to commit; and 
creating numberless millions of immortal souls, that could never have 
offended him, for the express purpose of tormenting them to all 
eternity." The purpose of this kind of notion, he says elsewhere, 
"the grand object of all civil and religious tyrants ... has been to 
suppress all the elevated operations of the mind, to kill the energy 
of thought, and through this channel to subjugate the whole earth for 
their own special emolument."  "It has hitherto been deemed a crime 
to think," he observes, but at last men have a chance-because they 
have finally escaped from the "long and doleful night" of Christian 
rule, and have grasped instead "the unlimited power of human 
reason"-"reason, which is the glory of our nature."  Allen and Palmer 
are extreme representatives of the Enlightenment spirit, granted; but 
they are representatives.  Theirs is the attitude which was new in 
the modern world, and which, in a less inflammatory form, was shared 
by all the founding fathers as their basic, revolutionary 
premise.  Thomas Jefferson states the attitude more sedately, with 
less willful provocation to religion, but it is the same essential 
attitude.  "Fix reason firmly in her seat," he advises a nephew, "and 
call to her tribunal every fact, every opinion.  Question with 
boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he 
must more approve of the homage of reason, than that of blindfolded 
fear." Observe the philosophic priorities in this advice: man's mind 
comes first; God is a derivative, if you can prove him.  The 
absolute, which must guide the human mind, is the principle of 
reason; every other idea must meet this test.  It is in this approach 
-- in this fundamental rejection of faith -- that the irreligion of 
the Enlightenment lies.

The consequence of this approach,was the age's rejection of all the 
other religious priorities.  In metaphysics: this world once again 
was regarded as real, as important, and as a realm not of miracles, 
but of impersonal, natural law.  In ethics: success in this life 
became the dominant motive; the veneration of asceticism was swept 
aside in favor of each man's pursuit of happiness -- his own 
happiness on earth, to be achieved by his own effort, by self-reliance
and self-respect leading to self-made prosperity.  But can man really 
achieve fulfillment on earth?  Yes, the Enlightenment answered; man 
has the means, the potent faculty of intellect, necessary to achieve 
his goals and values.  Man may not yet be perfect, people said, but 
he is perfectible; he must be so, because he is the rational animal.

Such were the watchwords of the period: not faith, God, service, but 
reason, nature, happiness, man.

Many of the founding fathers, of course, continued to believe in God 
and to do so sincerely, but it was a vestigial belief, a leftover 
from the past which no longer shaped the essence of
their thinking.  God, so to speak, had been kicked upstairs.  He was 
regarded now as an aloof spectator who neither responds to prayer nor 
offers revelations nor demands immolation.  This sort of viewpoint, 
known as deism, cannot, properly speaking, be classified as a 
religion.  It is a stage in the atrophy of religion; it is the step 
between Christianity and outright atheism. This is why the religious 
men of the Enlightenment were scandalized and even panicked by the 
deist atmosphere.  Here is the Rev.  Peter Clark of Salem, Mass. in 
1739: "The former Strictness in Religion, that ... Zeal for the Order 
and Ordinances of the Gospel, which was so much the Glory of our 
Fathers, is very much abated, yea disrelished by too many: and a 
Spirit of Licentiousness, and Neutrality in Religion ... so opposite 
to the Ways of God's People, do exceedingly prevail in the midst of 
us."  And here, fifty years later, is the Rev. Charles Backus of 
Springfield, Mass.  The threat to divine religion, he says, is the 
"indifference which prevails" and the "ridicule." Mankind, he warns, 
is in "great danger of being laughed out of religion." This was true; 
these preachers were not alarmists; their description of the 
Enlightenment atmosphere is correct.

This was the intellectual context of the American Revolution.  Point 
for point, the founding fathers' argument for liberty was the exact 
counterpart of the Puritans' argument for dictatorship -- but in 
reverse, moving from the opposite starting point to the opposite 
conclusion.  Man, the founding fathers said in essence (with a large 
assist from Locke and others), is the rational being; no authority, 
human or otherwise, can demand blind obedience from such a being-not 
in the realm of thought or, therefore, in the realm of action, 
either.  By his very nature, they said, man must be left free to 
exercise his reason and then to act accordingly, i.e., by the 
guidance of his best rational judgment.  Because this world is of 
vital importance, they added, the motive of man's action should be 
the pursuit of happiness. Because the individual, not a supernatural 
power, is the creator of wealth, a man should have the right to 
private property, the right to keep and use or trade his own 
product.  And because man is basically good, they held, there is no 
need to leash him; there is nothing to fear in setting free a rational animal.

This, in substance, was the American argument for man's inalienable 
rights.  It was the argument that reason demands freedom.  And this 
is why the nation of individual liberty, which is what the United 
States was, could not have been founded in any philosophically 
different century.  It required what the Enlightenment offered: a 
rational, secular context.

When you look for the source of an historic idea, you must consider 
philosophic essentials, not the superficial statements or errors that 
people may offer you.  Even the most well-meaning men can misidentify 
the intellectual roots of their own attitudes.  Regrettably, this is 
what the founding fathers did in one crucial respect.  All men, said 
Jefferson, are endowed "by their Creator" with certain unalienable 
rights, a statement that formally ties individual rights to the 
belief in God.  Despite Jefferson's eminence, however, his statement 
(along with its counterparts in Locke and others) is intellectually 
unwarranted.  The principle of individual rights does not derive from 
or depend on the idea of God as man's creator.  It derives from the 
very nature of man, whatever his source or origin; it derives from 
the requirements of man's mind and his survival.  In fact, as I have 
argued, the concept of rights is ultimately incompatible with the 
idea of the supernatural.  This is true not only logically, but also 
historically.  Through all the centuries of the Dark and Middle Ages, 
there was plenty of belief in a Creator; but it was only when 
religion began to fade that the idea of God as the author of 
individual rights emerged as an historical, nation-shaping force. 
What then deserves the credit for the new development -- the age-old 
belief or the new philosophy?  What is the real
intellectual root and protector of human liberty-God or reason?

My answer is now evident.  America does rest on a code of values and 
morality -- in this, the New Right is correct.  But, by all the 
evidence of philosophy and history, it does not rest on the values or 
ideas of religion.  It rests on their opposite.





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