You said SALES TAX is not initiation of force Paul. Who in America, is permiting me the privalage to sell goods or buy goods in America if I am an American? The goverment? You?
Trading with your nieghbor is not a privalage to wich you are obligated to some one to pay a fee for using the privlage the have so graciously given you. Not all forms of taxation are intiation of force, but you have not given any logical defense of your claim that sales tax is not. The fact that you can choose not to buy something is not a defense of your claim Paul. Your pro Sales tax, that is ok, I am not trying to change your mind, I gave up on changing your mind on anything about a year ago maybee more, time flies. But its force, and your advocating it is akin to advocating limited use of force. I am not saying your evil Paul, I am just saying own up to what it is you preach. --- In [email protected], "Paul" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > No. That isn't what I said. Perhaps you should read it again. > > I will go on record as saying, "Not all taxation is theft and not all > taxation is force." > > I consider any tax on your rights to be an act of force. I do not > consider extremely low and flat rate tariffs that do not hamper the > ability of people to trade in America to be initiating force. You can > speak to any nobel prize winning economist you like to see if 3% > hampers their ability to trade. People do NOT have the RIGHT to bring > goods into America to sell in our markets. This is a PRIVILEDGE, not > a right. > > Usage fees & excise taxes can be avoided by not using those services > and tariffs can be avoided by purchasing goods made in America. This > means there is no force what-so-ever. If you CHOOSE to buy imported > goods, you CHOOSE to willingly pay the extremely low tariffs > associated with it. The overall price of the product does not go up, > and in fact compared to our current tariffs, it would most likely go down. > > I say using tariffs and excise taxes (which are not the initiation of > force) we can fund 100% of the Constitutional parts of government. > > > > --- In [email protected], <boyd.w.smith@> wrote: > > > > From: Paul <ptireland@> > > > Also, as far as funding a limited government, it can be funded > > > completely without taxing income, but not completely without taxation. > > > This is the true dilemma of real libertarianism (aka...NOT > > > anarchy). > > > > So then according to you, initiating a little force is ok if it is > only a little force and for a good cause? > > > > BWS > > > ForumWebSiteAt http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
