uncoolrabbit, STOP your personal attack upon Paul; aka ad hominem!  

Attack (or support) the message; NOT the messenger in THIS forum.  


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-Terry Liberty Parker 
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--- In [email protected], "uncoolrabbit" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> Paul..
> 
> If I have tresspassed state how, I have stated how you have 
> supported the use of force, but you do not state how I tresspass, 
> and you can't Paul, the reason is... if you look back at allll of 
my 
> posts related to this, I have not made one opinion hear. I have not 
> expressed my point of view on anything, only challenged you to 
admit 
> to your own.
> 
> Your attempt to reverse it is, I hope, terribly transparent to all 
> as there is no way to contort the words written in this text to say 
> I want anything other than for you to adress your contradictory 
> statements, let alone to suggest I want to commit a tresspass.
> 
> I can understand why you would not want to adress the proprty 
rights 
> side of this issue given the difficulties it posses to your stance, 
> but you can not pretend it does not exhist, and attempting to turn 
> the issue into an attack on me is not productive. 
> 
> Every one else...
> 
> Having chastized Paul, it is only fair I explain how my persuit is 
> productive to discussion...
> 
> Paul was extreemly agressive and abusive to those expressing the 
> idea that there can be limited-Libertarians or liberal-Libertarians 
> or conservative-Libertarians or any for of libertarian that does 
not 
> agree with Paul for that matter.
> 
> Paul stated that a Libertarian is a Libertarian and any oen 
> deviating from its core is not a Libertarian. 
> 
> With Paul's stance supporting the goverments initaition of force in 
> teh realm of sales tax, Paul supported a limited use of force, non 
> consensual taxation, then when called on it, he attempted to defend 
> it with ill contrived logic. When that failed he was silent for 
> several days till his own words had been burried deeper in the 
> forumn, then returning using his classic tactics of derailing 
> thoughts to serve his own agenda or ego.
> 
> I don't say Paul is not a Libertarian, Paul himself says that he 
can 
> not possibly be a Libertarian.
> 
> Luckily for Paul, just like in his beliefe that the goverment has 
> the right to impose tax, thus making that inposition not a use of 
> force, I believe Paul is also wrong in saying he can not possibly 
be 
> a Libertarian.
> 
> Now I know Paul is to stubborn, and likley does not have the 
> attention span to do more than skim over what I right when its more 
> than a paragraph, there are others who also felt 
> including 'imperfect' Libertarians into the fold would be an act of 
> agression, some even going so far to claim some evil plot to 
destory 
> the philosophical triumph of Libertarianism... *cough cough*
> 
> We have to always keep in mind that every one does not view the 
wold 
> in the same way, and Liberty for all can not come from one mans 
view 
> of Liberty.
> 
> There are many points of view as to what the best steps to 
achieving 
> the most liberty for the most people, there are even conflicting 
> points of view on that very statement, as some may argue that a 
> little less liberty for the most, if it means alot more liberty for 
> the remaining few, should be considered.
> 
> While Paul may not open his mind, I call on those of you who will 
to 
> learn from his example, and be open to the ideas of others, of all 
> others around us, so that we can move forward productivley in the 
> direction of Liberty.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In [email protected], "Paul" <ptireland@> wrote:
> >
> > I will not allow you to change the topic to a property rights 
issue
> > when it is not one.  It is a trespass issue, and you want to 
> trespass
> > onto other Americans.  YOU want to initiate force against them.  
> YOU
> > promote aggression against other Americans.  Until you address 
> this, I
> > will not even consider your personal property claims.
> > 
> >
>






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