Paul, I would go back and get the number of the post, and place the quote of you doing just what you are now denying, but I don't have an obsession with making you admit your mistakes, this has been for the purpose explained in the other post from Friday, and I also don't have any great desire to explain that to you either.
My question is not loaded, it is clear, and stated as intended. Your question is loaded and mistated, as well as misleading to any one who has not read previous posts in this thread. I have made no point of views, expressed no opinions, and made no statements of my intentions beliefs or concerns, aside from that one not pertaioning to economics in any way, nor goverment, but rather point of view on theory. In this thread, Paul, I have only asked you to clerify your opinions. Thus, your claim that I have made consistant attempts to do anything, is out right astonishing. One does not have a right to initiate force in a Libertarian soceity, it is my beleif that that is the foundation of the 'Libertarian Society', and because of this beleif that I have consistatnly held threw out this thread I ask you How, in a Libertarian Society, is it not an initiation of force to mandate a seller to charge, and a buyer to pay, to the goverment, a Tax on the sale of those goods? --- In [email protected], "Paul" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'd answer your loaded question, but it is misworded. I don't support > the initiation of force to mandate a buyer or seller to pay the > government a tax on the sale of those goods. I support using > government to prevent the initiation of force by those who would > trespass against the American people by bringing foreign goods into > this country without paying a fee for the privilege; a fee that > rightfully belongs to all of the American people. > > Now, answer my question. > > How, in a Libertarian society, do you have the right to initiate force > against other Americans in the form of trespass and theft by bringing > goods into American markets in violation of the laws agreed upon in > our charter? What gives you the right to trespass or steal from others? > > Your consistent attempts to justify your desire to initiate force > against other Americans is wholly unlibertarian. > > > > --- In [email protected], "uncoolrabbit" <uncoolrabbit@> > wrote: > > > > Forget his metaphors Boyd and join with me in asking > > > > "How, in a Libertarian Society, is it not an initiation of force to > > mandate a seller to charge, and a buyer to pay, to the goverment, a > > Tax on the sale of those goods?" > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], <boyd.w.smith@> wrote: > > > > > > From: Paul <ptireland@> > > > > --- In [email protected], <boyd.w.smith@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > The situation is not in any way like a corporate mall. You > > have no > > > > choice where you are born. You have rights and the right to > > property > > > > is one of them. Your attempts to say that you have a moral > > right to > > > > interfere in my property rights are false. Your analogy is > > > > misleading. Your claims that you can interfere with my rights > > because > > > > the constitution says you can only point up the fact that the > > > > constitution is wrong on this point as well. > > > > > > > > > > BWS > > > > > > > > > > > > > The situation is exactly like a corporate mall. And if you want > > to > > > > make it a property rights issue, the property in question is the > > mall > > > > and it's owned by me and the other Americans. You have no right > > to > > > > bring foreign goods into the corporate mall without payinf > > rent. You > > > > have no right to setup a lemonade stand in my front yard to sell > > YOUR > > > > lemonade. It's not just a matter of you selling YOUR property > > and > > > > someone buying it. You are NOT the only two parties involved. > > You > > > > are involving me by selling your stuff on my property. > > > > > > > > I, and all the other Americans, do in fact OWN the mall > > (markets). > > > > > > I am actually setting up the lemonade stand on MY property. You > > are NOT involved unless you wish to buy my lemonade. It is EXACTLY > > a matter of selling my lemonade on my property. Morally you do not > > own the markets. Despite the constitution. But I do offer you the > > opportunity to prove your point. Again. Something you have not yet > > done. > > > Continually repeating you stance is not proof. You can say > > incorrect things millions of times and that does not make them > > correct. You can say unproven assertions billions of times and that > > will not constitute proof. > > > > > > BWS > > > > > > ForumWebSiteAt http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
