Okay, I'm not sure that anything was said here. If it was, I'd like someone to point it out to me. If Dennis Miller or others think that being a non-interventionist libertarian means not responding to realistic, credible threats, then the problem, as I see it, is nothing more than mischaracterization of the Libertarian position.
On Mar 26, 2006, at 9:29 AM, Eric Dondero wrote: > [ModeratorNote: this post is NOT a cause for > an orgy of name calling and people labeling! > > The author appears to me to have made a resonable > attempt at identifying a pivotal LIBERTARIAN issue. > > How CREDIBLE is the threat and what has/is its > provocation? > > Libertarianism's defining principle: each person is > free to do as chosen by their own free will EXCEPT > initiate, or do a credible threat to initiate, > physical force against the person or justly held > possessions of another. > > AKA: non-aggression principle, physical aggression > truce, reciprocal comprehensive physical autonomy > for each and every person, and so on. > > SeeAlso: What's at the Heart of What Libertarians are Selling? > at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian/message/30419 > > -TLP ] > > > > There's a new political movement rising. It's a coalition of real > world libertarians who are sick and tired of the ambivelence on Muslim > extremist of pacifist anti-War libertarians, and others who have been > outside of the libertarian movement for years, unable to come aboard > repulsed by the radicalism of the movement's anti-War wing. > > What is a "Dennis Miller libertarian"? > > From a New York Times profile of the comedian Dennis Miller, 15 > January 2004: > > Mr. Miller is also not a traditional conservative. "I've always been > a pragmatist," he said. "If two gay guys want to get married, it's > none of my business. I could care less. More power to them. I'm happy > when people fall in love. But if some idiot foreign terrorist wants to > blow up their wedding to make a political statement, I would rather > kill him before he can do it, or have my country kill him before he > can do it, instead of having him do it and punishing him after the > fact. If that makes me a right-wing fanatic, I will bask in that > assignation." > > Mr. Miller said he remained socially liberal. "I think abortion's > wrong, but it's none of my business to tell somebody what's wrong," he > said. "So I'm pro-choice. I want to keep my nose out of other people's > personal business. I guess I fall into conservative when it comes to > protecting the United States in a world where a lot of people hate the > United States." > > > Who are the "Dennis Miller libertarians" who have been outside of > the libertarian movement? > > Jonah Goldberg of National Review > Christopher Hitchens, Author & writer for GQ > Jesse Ventura > Ted Nugent > Gene Simmons > Andrew Sullivan, Blogger & Columnist > Daniel Pipes > Jonathan Rauch > Tammy Bruce, Radio Talk Show Host, Feminist & Commentator > Larry Elder > Neal Boortz > Steve Emerson > Bruce Bawer, NY Times Travel Writer & author of the new book "While > the West Slept; the rise of Muslim radicalism in western Europe" > > In the coming months activist "real worlder" libertarians will work > to bring these fine gentleman and ladies into the libertarian > coalition. > > Watch out Non-interventionist libertarians who preach ambivelence in > the face of rising Muslim violence against the West and our Western > values of tolerance, sexual liberation and individual liberty. > > You're about to see a HUGE MAKEOVER FOR THE LIBERTARIAN MOVEMENT!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Libertarian Republicans > > Fiscally Conservative, Socially Tolerant & Pro-Defense! > > Dondero is a US Navy Veteran, former Libertarian Party National > Committeeman, fmr. Senior Aide to US Congressman Ron Paul R-TX, and > Founder of the Republican Liberty Caucus. He is Editor of the > Libertarian Republican Political Report, which covers insider news on > mainstream libertarians running for political office. To subscribe > send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > ForumWebSiteAt http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > -- Genius/Idiot: Musings of an itinerant philosopher http://homepage.mac.com/calion/blog ForumWebSiteAt http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
