--- In [email protected], "terry12622000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You can't be serious, Hitchens was a Trotsky communist turned neocon, > Pipes is a Hawk and Sullivan is a not a neocon but has been a flaky > Socialist type hawk he would fit real well with Hillary Clinton. You > might as well put her name on there, hey Bill said he was a > libertarian, so I guess anyone can claim to be a libertarian. Na, > honestly, they may have become libertarian but it is not a good idea > testing them by running them for president on the LP ticket giving > their recent background. --- In [email protected], Eric > Dondero <ericdondero@> wrote: > > > > [ModeratorNote: this post is NOT a cause for > > an orgy of name calling and people labeling! > > > > The author appears to me to have made a resonable > > attempt at identifying a pivotal LIBERTARIAN issue. > > > > How CREDIBLE is the threat and what has/is its > > provocation? > > > > Libertarianism's defining principle: each person is > > free to do as chosen by their own free will EXCEPT > > initiate, or do a credible threat to initiate, > > physical force against the person or justly held > > possessions of another. > > > > AKA: non-aggression principle, physical aggression > > truce, reciprocal comprehensive physical autonomy > > for each and every person, and so on. > > > > SeeAlso: What's at the Heart of What Libertarians are Selling? > > at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian/message/30419 > > > > -TLP ] > > > > > > > > There's a new political movement rising. It's a coalition of real > world libertarians who are sick and tired of the ambivelence on > Muslim extremist of pacifist anti-War libertarians, and others who > have been outside of the libertarian movement for years, unable to > come aboard repulsed by the radicalism of the movement's anti-War > wing. > > > > What is a "Dennis Miller libertarian"? > > > > From a New York Times profile of the comedian Dennis Miller, 15 > January 2004: > > > > Mr. Miller is also not a traditional conservative. "I've always > been a pragmatist," he said. "If two gay guys want to get married, > it's none of my business. I could care less. More power to them. I'm > happy when people fall in love. But if some idiot foreign terrorist > wants to blow up their wedding to make a political statement, I would > rather kill him before he can do it, or have my country kill him > before he can do it, instead of having him do it and punishing him > after the fact. If that makes me a right-wing fanatic, I will bask in > that assignation." > > > > Mr. Miller said he remained socially liberal. "I think abortion's > wrong, but it's none of my business to tell somebody what's wrong," > he said. "So I'm pro-choice. I want to keep my nose out of other > people's personal business. I guess I fall into conservative when it > comes to protecting the United States in a world where a lot of > people hate the United States." > > > > > > Who are the "Dennis Miller libertarians" who have been outside of > the libertarian movement? > > > > Jonah Goldberg of National Review > > Christopher Hitchens, Author & writer for GQ > > Jesse Ventura > > Ted Nugent > > Gene Simmons > > Andrew Sullivan, Blogger & Columnist > > Daniel Pipes > > Jonathan Rauch > > Tammy Bruce, Radio Talk Show Host, Feminist & Commentator > > Larry Elder > > Neal Boortz > > Steve Emerson > > Bruce Bawer, NY Times Travel Writer & author of the new > book "While the West Slept; the rise of Muslim radicalism in western > Europe" > > > > In the coming months activist "real worlder" libertarians will > work to bring these fine gentleman and ladies into the libertarian > coalition. > > > > Watch out Non-interventionist libertarians who preach ambivelence > in the face of rising Muslim violence against the West and our > Western values of tolerance, sexual liberation and individual liberty. > > > > You're about to see a HUGE MAKEOVER FOR THE LIBERTARIAN > MOVEMENT!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Libertarian Republicans > > > > Fiscally Conservative, Socially Tolerant & Pro-Defense! > > > > Dondero is a US Navy Veteran, former Libertarian Party National > Committeeman, fmr. Senior Aide to US Congressman Ron Paul R-TX, and > Founder of the Republican Liberty Caucus. He is Editor of the > Libertarian Republican Political Report, which covers insider news on > mainstream libertarians running for political office. To subscribe > send an email to ericdondero@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > >
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